Hey all, I am wondering about what you guys think of John Rutzen’s flutes. Are they good, and how do they compare to other flutes commonly mentioned on the board eg. Dixon, Copely, etc?
Secondly, will Dave Copely be producing Delrin flutes? I read it somewhere on the board that he is considering it.
Thirdly, I’d like to thank everyone for helping me out in my flute/fluting questions. If theres ever an award for person who asks the most flute questions and doesn’t own a flute, I’d win it hands down. Thanks for indulging me!
I don’t have any plans to produce delrin flutes, mainly because the demand for wooden flutes is keeping us more than busy. Also there would be a fair amount of re-learning and re-tooling needed because of the differences in machining delrin rather than wood. However I am working with someone else who is planning to develop and market a delrin flute based on the Copley design.
@jonc
I wasn’t replying to eldarion.
I am realising the topic which is about RUTZEN’s flutes.
The initiating post need not proscribe the topic though it may
direct its initial impetus.
What better place to share a link about the flutes of John Rutzen
than a topic entitled so?
For the highly linear I will elucidate that sentence:-
The initiating post need not proscribe subsequent posts that may not refer to the initial post but which are within the scope of the topic’s heading although it is expected that the immediate subsequent posts should defer somewhat to the initial post unless a paucity of immediate subsequent posts over a reasonable effluxion of time demonstrates such deference to be impractical as a continuing driver of subsequent posts.
While I am at it I’ll feed the linear, literal dragon that seems to tyrannise the mentality of some with yet another pedantic elucidation of an earlier sentence:
this is another beautiful site and I really liked the look of his boxwood flutes also
to read:-
This is another beautiful site, meaning, John Rutzen’s site, and I really liked the look of his boxwood (with brass and cork) flutes also.
Ahhhhh. I feel better now. Can’t beat a good dose of polysyllabic Latinate verbiage. Just what the doctor ordered
You CAN do it when you bother, Talasiga! And we even understand what you (meant to) mean then!
I’m getting tired of opening up a post and reading the first few posts and thinking about the topic and what my thoughts on the matter are and how can I share something useful, when I finally read that the initial post was posted seven or eight years ago.
I could be off-base here, but to me, it seems f-ing childish, kind of like those crank calls you make when you’re a kid. Or throwing stones at cars.
Rutzen flutes are still being made, people are still buying them, playing them, curious about them, the Rutzen website is well and alive.
I didn’t throw stones at cars or make crank calls when I was a kid so I don’t quite understand your distress.
(I do, however, admit to wrapping little pebbles in lolly paper and selling them to some gullible school girls when I was about 3 years old. It was infantile, fanciful mimicking of Commerce with no pecuniary intention. My grandma still chased me about the house for that though with a large palm stem broom).
@fearfaoin.
your presence is bumping up the revival.
It happened liked this:-
I found the the Rutzen website and I thought I would share it and also put it in a flute topic for future reference.
Rather than automatically and egocentricly creating a new topic I thought I should see if a pre-existing topic would accomodate it. I searched and found this topic.
I hate it when hundreds of new topics are created on the same ol issue. Like all those topics about C nat. etc etc repeating themselves.
I find the whining objections to this constructive practice quite childish.
Fortunately, in my experience, a lot of constructive and entertaining posters engage in revived topics and this is reviving and refreshing.
No one is making you to join this topic and no one makes me read your whinging.
What should I do to get someone to post a comment about the FLUTES, the beautiful flutes in question?
I agree with you that several topics on the same subject are kind of
annoying, but there’s a point at which a topic is way past being relevant
to that problem.
The only reason I consistently bitch about this practice is because this
is how it feels: I come to a thread I haven’t seen before, and read the
first post, and sometimes I think, “Oh, I can help this person, I have
information on that.” Then I realize that the thread is ancient, and that
the person probably hasn’t read the forum for several years. It’s like
talking to a ghost. I wish I could be more convincing than that, but there
really is a disappointing emotion engendered by that, and that’s why I
tend to find these annoying. Even worse is when I see someone on a
zombie thread who hasn’t posted in a long time, and I think, e.g., “Oh
boy, Gary Kelly is back!” Then I realize it was all a cruel hoax. So, it’s
not just a matter of not participating, because I accidentally get drawn
in before I can even decide not to participate.
I don’t think what you did here was childish, and I wouldn’t use quite the
invective that mahanpots settled on, but I would like to humbly suggest
that if a thread is more than a year old, it’s far enough past the first
page to warrant a new thread. And then you’d get the flute discussion
you wanted instead of people being too annoyed to give a damn about
John Rutzen’s flutes (which admittedly, are quite lovely).
The problem, Tal, old pal, is that in employing an ancient thread to satisfy your own curiosity about these flutes, you’ve dragged Eldarion, and his words of yore, into your own mission. We, helpful C&F’ers all, see his call for help and spring into action, when in fact he needs no help. THAT is supremely annoying, as was the lorry-load of verbal garbage you dumped on us all when folks lodged a legitimate complaint.
I think this sort of thing would better be avoided.
Note the post from Dave C, saying he has no plans
to make delrin flutes. A number of readers who don’t
realize the date might think it’s current and conclude
he offers no delrin flutes–this does Dave’s business
no favors, obviously, as he makes a popular delrin
flute.
Also some of these resurrected threads have led to
a good deal of quarreling.
As to the flutes, anybody know what they sound like?
I was going to take the high road and talk about the flutes, but I can’t think
of anything to say. They’re boxwood. Round embouchure. Maybe I’ll talk
about the website.
Really? I’m finding it hard to determine how you would buy one. How much
do they cost? Do you have to contact to order? Why are the pictures on
the Items for Sale page? Isn’t 400 Euros pretty cheap for a blackwood flute?
