The Song Who's Name Must Not Be Mentioned
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The Song Who's Name Must Not Be Mentioned
Well, St. Patrick's Day is upon us, and I've received notice that I will be asked to play TSWNMNBM at a function at which I will be performing.
I seem to remember a thread (which I have not been able to find in a search) that told the name of the tune to which the lyrics (with some mangling of said tune) of TSWNMNBM was set. Can anyone tell me what tune was the original melody to which the TSWNMNBM was set?
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I seem to remember a thread (which I have not been able to find in a search) that told the name of the tune to which the lyrics (with some mangling of said tune) of TSWNMNBM was set. Can anyone tell me what tune was the original melody to which the TSWNMNBM was set?
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And I got Sidney's leg.
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Re: The Song Who's Name Must Not Be Mentioned
Good Lord. There have to be a number of TSWNMNBMs, but I'm guessing you meandaveboling wrote:Well, St. Patrick's Day is upon us, and I've received notice that I will be asked to play TSWNMNBM at a function at which I will be performing.
I seem to remember a thread (which I have not been able to find in a search) that told the name of the tune to which the lyrics (with some mangling of said tune) of TSWNMNBM was set. Can anyone tell me what tune was the original melody to which the TSWNMNBM was set?
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DANNY BOY.
The tune it's sung to is now called Londonderry Air, Air from County Derry, or Derry Air. Let the filthy wag their tongues.
Here's some interesting info:
http://www.standingstones.com/dannyboy.html
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Re: The Song Who's Name Must Not Be Mentioned
Do I recall a poll on this song? I think it showed that a substantial portion of the membership are fond of it.daveboling wrote:Well, St. Patrick's Day is upon us, and I've received notice that I will be asked to play TSWNMNBM at a function at which I will be performing.
I seem to remember a thread (which I have not been able to find in a search) that told the name of the tune to which the lyrics (with some mangling of said tune) of TSWNMNBM was set. Can anyone tell me what tune was the original melody to which the TSWNMNBM was set?
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The original tune which Weatherly reportedly composed and set to his lyrics in 1910 was by all accounts unremarkable, and the song met with no success at all. It was his sister-in-law in America who, two years later, sent him the tune we now associate with it; Weatherly re-published the lyrics with the new melody, and made a small fortune from it.daveboling wrote:Can anyone tell me what tune was the original melody to which the TSWNMNBM was set?
Commentaries differ, but there seems to be evidence that Derry Air may indeed be an Irish melody.
I've been Googling to see if I could dredge up the very original melody Weatherly composed, but no luck, yet.
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Re: The Song Who's Name Must Not Be Mentioned
I'm fond of it in direct proportion to the donations to my tip jar.dwinterfield wrote:Do I recall a poll on this song? I think it showed that a substantial portion of the membership are fond of it.
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"Derry Air" (can anyone say that without laughing?) is based on an Irish dance tune, but it's quite different in execution. If you were to hear the original played, you'd never guess it was meant to be the air for that gawdawful song.Nanohedron wrote:The original tune which Weatherly reportedly composed and set to his lyrics in 1910 was by all accounts unremarkable, and the song met with no success at all. It was his sister-in-law in America who, two years later, sent him the tune we now associate with it; Weatherly re-published the lyrics with the new melody, and made a small fortune from it.daveboling wrote:Can anyone tell me what tune was the original melody to which the TSWNMNBM was set?
Commentaries differ, but there seems to be evidence that Derry Air may indeed be an Irish melody.
I've been Googling to see if I could dredge up the very original melody Weatherly composed, but no luck, yet.
The bottom line is, "Danny Boy" is an English song.
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George Handel is reported to have said, upon hearing the melody, that he'd die content if only he'd written it.
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Don't let the existence of a dodgy set of lyrics--or of the theft by someone from another nation--deter you: This is one of the world's great melodies, and deserves every bit of renown it receives for that sake alone.
Disowning the tune because some english lawyer made up a set of lyrics is (almost literally) cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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Part of the problem is that the name of the melody either contains the word "London" or turns into 'derriere'. I move that someone hurriedly translate 'Derry Air" into irish gaelic, and that's what we'll all call the melody henceforth.
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Don't let the existence of a dodgy set of lyrics--or of the theft by someone from another nation--deter you: This is one of the world's great melodies, and deserves every bit of renown it receives for that sake alone.
Disowning the tune because some english lawyer made up a set of lyrics is (almost literally) cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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Part of the problem is that the name of the melody either contains the word "London" or turns into 'derriere'. I move that someone hurriedly translate 'Derry Air" into irish gaelic, and that's what we'll all call the melody henceforth.
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http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php?p=329669#329669
And then you'll want to memorize this:
http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php?p=87795#87795
And then you'll want to memorize this:
http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php?p=87795#87795
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Re: The Song Who's Name Must Not Be Mentioned
I thought that it was The Unicorn Song.Nanohedron wrote: Good Lord. There have to be a number of TSWNMNBMs...
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You mean this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU">one</a>?
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That is quite possibly the funniest thing in the entire world.NicoMoreno wrote:You mean this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU">one</a>?
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Fonn Dhoire is what it would be in Irish...pronounced "fon GUR-reh" in the Ulster dialect (appropriately).s1m0n wrote:George Handel is reported to have said, upon hearing the melody, that he'd die content if only he'd written it.
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Don't let the existence of a dodgy set of lyrics--or of the theft by someone from another nation--deter you: This is one of the world's great melodies, and deserves every bit of renown it receives for that sake alone.
Disowning the tune because some english lawyer made up a set of lyrics is (almost literally) cutting off your nose to spite your face.
~~
Part of the problem is that the name of the melody either contains the word "London" or turns into 'derriere'. I move that someone hurriedly translate 'Derry Air" into irish gaelic, and that's what we'll all call the melody henceforth.
I still don't like the tune. The original was fine, but it was reworked so drastically for "Danny Boy" that it no longer sounds even remotely like a real Irish air. It sounds like the romantic, schmaltzy art music typical of the period. I'll take "Airde Cuan" or "Mo Mhuirnín Bán" any day of the week.
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