“300 Tunes from Mike Rafferty”
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“300 Tunes from Mike Rafferty”
Of those who have this, what comments have ye?
Anyone have Lesl Harker's e mail address to order the compilation.
Anyone have Lesl Harker's e mail address to order the compilation.
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Being a big Mike admirer, I realy feel the need for a companion CD.....(or set, I guess)......can't seem to get the "feel" between these tunes and the dots from the "studio" recordings....(well, most of them anyway)
.......not that I can do much better w/ others..........
.......not that I can do much better w/ others..........
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I like it. If nothing else, it's a lot of tunes in a relatively small book for those of us who practice somewhere that isn't at home and have trouble remembering what we wanted to play when no one else is around to start tunes. It's interesting to see where the breaks for breathing are, though I hardly ever end up breathing in those places.
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I have several other tune books. I like the Rafferty book because it has tunes written down the way a flutie plays them. This has helped me identify the right flute "idiom" so I don't end up trying to replicate my banjo ornaments on the flute.
It is also a nice big compilation of tunes that includes a few I haven't seen anywhere else.
About the only "weakness" is that some tunes are quite different to the "usual" way I have heard them played (e.g. Maid behind the Bar). This is not really a weakness at all, because it reflects the diversity of styles and learning networks in the folk process.
It is also a nice big compilation of tunes that includes a few I haven't seen anywhere else.
About the only "weakness" is that some tunes are quite different to the "usual" way I have heard them played (e.g. Maid behind the Bar). This is not really a weakness at all, because it reflects the diversity of styles and learning networks in the folk process.
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Quite right. They're not just 'tunes', they're transcriptions of Mike's playing.Jumbuk wrote: I like the Rafferty book because it has tunes written down the way a flutie plays them.
I think I'm right in saying that at leat 42 of the tunes appear on Mike's various CDs, and while some of them he plays on the pipes ("Down the Back Lane/O'Shaughnessy's" springs to mind) the tunes are still transcribed from his fluting.
Lesl's done a fantastic job of 'conservation' as well, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a Volume 2 (and quite possibly an accompanying CD as well) in the foreseeable future.
In addition to all this, the notes sections at the back of the book provide some interesting and amusing anecdotes concerning the tunes and how and where Mike got them.
With regard to some of the settings being 'different to the usual way they're played', Mike Rafferty (and thus the tunes in this book) has a direct and eminently 'traceable' lineage back through the tradition, so when it comes to the question of 'authenticity' or 'setting', any snoots that might feel the need to be cocked should probably be directed at 'the usual way' found in sessions (courtesy of Mel Bay in all likelihood) rather than towards Mr Rafferty, methinks.
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whats wrong with replicating some banjo ornamentation on the flute?Jumbuk wrote:I have several other tune books. I like the Rafferty book because it has tunes written down the way a flutie plays them. This has helped me identify the right flute "idiom" so I don't end up trying to replicate my banjo ornaments on the flute.
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You said it ! (the michievous Mr Bay in particular...for copyright reasons)GaryKelly wrote: With regard to some of the settings being 'different to the usual way they're played', Mike Rafferty (and thus the tunes in this book) has a direct and eminently 'traceable' lineage back through the tradition, so when it comes to the question of 'authenticity' or 'setting', any snoots that might feel the need to be cocked should probably be directed at 'the usual way' found in sessions (courtesy of Mel Bay in all likelihood) rather than towards Mr Rafferty, methinks.
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only a few more tests now and I'm sure results will differ this time ... "
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Authentic...?
I always thought that the authentic version of the tune is the way the strongest player in the session is playing it.
You gonna say that Glinjack's version or Andy Mcgann's version of a tune is better or worse than Rafferty's?
You gonna say that Glinjack's version or Andy Mcgann's version of a tune is better or worse than Rafferty's?
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Re: Authentic...?
Nope. But I have heard enough (and watched enough) of Mike at close range to believe he's the most economical (or ergonomical as well, I suppose) player I've ever seen.....you could cojecture that that relates well to a historical imperitive (Achmed's Razor)cocusflute wrote:You gonna say that Glinjack's version or Andy Mcgann's version of a tune is better or worse than Rafferty's?
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only a few more tests now and I'm sure results will differ this time ... "
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same results every time is insanity: I've almost proved it isn't;
only a few more tests now and I'm sure results will differ this time ... "
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I'm joining in with Jack. I do wish for that CD set!!!Jack Bradshaw wrote:Being a big Mike admirer, I realy feel the need for a companion CD.....(or set, I guess)......can't seem to get the "feel" between these tunes and the dots from the "studio" recordings....(well, most of them anyway)
.......not that I can do much better w/ others..........
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That's precisely one of the book's great strengths! This isn't your "Five Million Irish Session Favorites"...it's real music as played by one of the greats.About the only "weakness" is that some tunes are quite different to the "usual" way I have heard them played...
Edited to add that Ossian USA has it, as well as Mike (and Mary) Rafferty's recordings.
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