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Has Anyone tried these?
I purchased these finger weights a few weeks ago to help my finger movements and speed. I am left handed playing a right-handed set so I have difficulty playing tight triplets with my right hand. These weights have really helped my dexterity. See this site for a description and short video clip.
http://www.handhealth.com/weights.asp
http://www.handhealth.com/weights.asp
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Looks interesting. Here's anoth product that may be of use -
http://www.stretchnow.com.au/products/flextend.htm
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One of the more famous composers/pianists(could have been Schubert?) , tried using a contraption to strengthen his fingers in order to overcome the mechanical shortcomings of the piano of his day. Completely screwed-up his hands, and was never able to play in public again. I studied clarinet under two world-class players, had instruction at several tionols by phenominal musicians, and they all say that the only way to get better is by spending time with the instrument in your hands. If you want those crisp triplets to be at your fingertips, get out to the woodshed, and get to work (God knows I need to )
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(smartass on) 'twas Robert Schumann (smartass off). I myself found that pumping iron (dumbbells, barbells) helps strengthen my grip and playing control. Not too much, though. No wonder Arnie doesn not play UPs.daveboling wrote:One of the more famous composers/pianists(could have been Schubert?) , tried using a contraption to strengthen his fingers in order to overcome the mechanical shortcomings of the piano of his day. Completely screwed-up his hands, and was never able to play in public again.
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I used to use one of those V-shaped thingies you use to build up hand strength. I thought it would help me play the chanter better. However, everyone I spoke to told me that I should have my fingers as relaxed as possible and that having stronger fingers only encouraged me to continue the death-grip when playing the chanter.
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> I used to use one of those V-shaped thingies
Those increase grip strength, right? I do agree with your thinking that a little extra finger conditioning is helpful, but just not grip strength. I think increasing flex strength of the fingers (put palm on table and lift finger up: that kind of strength) is actually useful. The main thing with fingers though is Do Not Overdo It. You can easily damage your hands by overdoing it.
PJ, you do have it completely right that "relaxed" is key. So, if you pursue it, focus on making your hands, fingers, biceps, etc, completely relaxed, and work on lifting fingers with complete independance of each other. It has helped my playing.
> short video clip.
Just don't do it like the clip. You want to teach your fingers relaxed independence of movement, rather than the too-tense manner the clip does it.
Those increase grip strength, right? I do agree with your thinking that a little extra finger conditioning is helpful, but just not grip strength. I think increasing flex strength of the fingers (put palm on table and lift finger up: that kind of strength) is actually useful. The main thing with fingers though is Do Not Overdo It. You can easily damage your hands by overdoing it.
PJ, you do have it completely right that "relaxed" is key. So, if you pursue it, focus on making your hands, fingers, biceps, etc, completely relaxed, and work on lifting fingers with complete independance of each other. It has helped my playing.
> short video clip.
Just don't do it like the clip. You want to teach your fingers relaxed independence of movement, rather than the too-tense manner the clip does it.
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It's an interesting concept but I'm not sure if stronger fingers and tendons would actually help your playing. I rock climb and have really strong fingers, this has not helped my pipe playing that I can tell. What it may help with is preventing injuring and the best way to prevent that is to warm your fingers up before you play.
A good exercise for this is to "flick" imagined water from your fingers 15 times three times. Another good one is to stretch your arm out and lightly pull your finges back and hold for a bit. Do this with different combinations of fingers and you should be able to get everything nice and relaxed for playing.
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A good exercise for this is to "flick" imagined water from your fingers 15 times three times. Another good one is to stretch your arm out and lightly pull your finges back and hold for a bit. Do this with different combinations of fingers and you should be able to get everything nice and relaxed for playing.
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Finger Flexibility
Flexibility is far more important than strength. You probably don't realise it, but your fingers are considerably stronger than someone who does not play a musical instrument.
One exercise I was prompted to try by my old violin teacher was to take a sheet of newspaper between finger and thumb, then scrunch it up using the next finger to gather some more in, and then the next finger and so on, until you claw it into a ball. Then repeat the exercise reversing the order of the fingers. Surprisingly it works rather well.
Laying your hands flat on a table and then lifting all your fingers up and away from the table is another good way of training the tendons. Hold your fingers up for a few seconds and sopt if you feel any strain.
To build up strength so you can play badly set up and strongly reeded pipes, place a coconut under each armpit and try and crack them.
Mike
One exercise I was prompted to try by my old violin teacher was to take a sheet of newspaper between finger and thumb, then scrunch it up using the next finger to gather some more in, and then the next finger and so on, until you claw it into a ball. Then repeat the exercise reversing the order of the fingers. Surprisingly it works rather well.
Laying your hands flat on a table and then lifting all your fingers up and away from the table is another good way of training the tendons. Hold your fingers up for a few seconds and sopt if you feel any strain.
To build up strength so you can play badly set up and strongly reeded pipes, place a coconut under each armpit and try and crack them.
Mike
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Just a cautionary word to those aiming to strengthen their hands and fingers, do not over do it. I am a classically trained pianist (in addition to a score of other instruments) and during high school I pumped a lot of iron. The result of my weight lifting seriously impeded my finger flexibility and agility... the really damaging repetitions were curls and bench pressing... and years of piano training were almost wiped out.
If I were to offer advice to those seeking flexibility and agility through weight lifting/training, I'd say don't. As Mr. Hulme has pointed out, your fingers are already stronger than those who do not play this or any other instrument. It isn't strength one needs, but agility and dexterity... and these are things that are seriously hampered by weight training. Stretching is a far better way to go.
If I were to offer advice to those seeking flexibility and agility through weight lifting/training, I'd say don't. As Mr. Hulme has pointed out, your fingers are already stronger than those who do not play this or any other instrument. It isn't strength one needs, but agility and dexterity... and these are things that are seriously hampered by weight training. Stretching is a far better way to go.
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Re: Finger Flexibility
A coconut... in Mercia!? Where did you get it?Mike Hulme wrote:To build up strength so you can play badly set up and strongly reeded pipes, place a coconut under each armpit and try and crack them.
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Re: Finger Flexibility
Obviously carried in by a swallow.Reepicheep wrote: A coconut... in Mercia!? Where did you get it?
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Re: Finger Flexibility
... African or European?WannabePiper wrote:Obviously carried in by a swallow.Reepicheep wrote: A coconut... in Mercia!? Where did you get it?