Rudall & Rose 3260, boxwood, in auction April 17th - Lot 0737, Eden Fine Antiques Galleries, Marietta, Georgia. Looks nice, no visible cracks, original case, strange head joint cap though. Have at it:
https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item/51767011_rudall-rose-flute
Never mind the flute!
That embouchure hole seems in an odd position, at the center of the head joint.
looks like a squealer!
Lord, no more, please
Yes, curious that a Rudall & Rose boxwood flute and a golden toilet should find their way to Marietta, Georgia.
Apparently the golden toilet is from yer man Trump’s summer residence in Marietta, Georgia.
Shaped more like a banana (which would make it a peeler?)
They were fashionable once but just a “flash in the pan”
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Bid on this flute as just a flute and not as a Rudall & Rose, i have been around rudall flutes for many years
and i still play a boxwood Rudall with patent head, this flute up for auction is well made but not by the Rudall & Rose Co, i have come across two of this type of flute during the past 30 years, one i remember at the Willie week in Milltown and one at an antique sale in London, why did George Rudall and John Rose finally place a large paper label on their case’s singed by both—because there were exact copies of their flutes been sold, and to see one of these copied flutes in exactly one of their case’s made me laugh for a moment,
at least the other two that i came across had just plain wooden case’s
But to avoid litigation at the time they would either misspell the name or leave out part of the address,
in this case they have put the address on the body as “Rudall & Rose, 15 Piazza, London.‘’ the Rudall Co had ''Covent Garden” after 15 piazza.—check it out,
also on looking at this flute–it seems that the maker tried his hand at a patent head-joint, but looks like the silver cover came off or got lost and the owner rigged up some type of end cap, the embouchure is not in what i think the position that it should be—Mr Krell already spotted this, so bid on the flute as what you think, just giving you my idea and what i know about what went on over the years,
I think JMackvane is right. What do others think? Apart from the missing “Covent Garden” on the left hand part of the flute I noticed that all the wording is curved in the main stamp, even the address part “No 15 Piazza”, instead of it being in a straight line as seems to be usual on simple system Rudall flutes. The stamp, as far as I can see, looking at photos of bone fide Rudall simple system flutes always seems to have just the address part, “No 15 Piazza Covent Garden” or " No 1 Tavistock St Covent Garden", in a straight line (although R&R 3203 has the whole stamp in straight lines).
Rudall & Rose
No 15 Piazza
Covent Garden
London
serial number
However looking at the Rudalls I own I see that on the main stamp the address part “No 1 Tavistock St Covent Garden” is also straight, not curved. Haven’t seen any stamp so far where all the wording in the main stamp on the left hand flute part is curved
Regarding the length and placement of the embouchure hole I’m not sure if this rings warning bells. Looking at some photos of Rudalls the head joint length does seem to be varied, not always a standard length.
The case looks to be genuine as JMackvane says. I agree with JMackvane the flute is probably a contemporary mid 1800s replica/fake Rudall, but it could still be a good player and interesting to own.
JMackvane where are you based? What is the serial number of your Rudall flute/s? Do you have access to any other serial numbers of Rudall simple system flutes? I’d be interested in adding them to the public register of Rudall simple system flutes.
Hi Steampacket. Here are some Rudall & Rose flute numbers,8 key Cocus 1830 # 721, 8 key Cocus about 1830 #2507,Boxwood 8 key 1840 # 4692, Boxwood 8 key about 1835 # 1871, Cocus 8 key #1144
Rosewood 8 key # 3743, Rosewood 8 key around 1840 #1093, Boxwood 8 key around 1830 # 926,
Boxwood 8 key 1830 # 2976, Boxwood 8 key #3498, Cocus 11 key # 2896, Boxwood 8 key 1830 # 901,
Hi JMackvane, sounds like you are my ideal house neighbour! 
About the R&R on auction: I agree about some odd differences from other R&R. I cannot get how the maker can copy the Eb plug and lower Keys style and a good number of other details… and badly fail on such evident thing as stamps!
Just wondering anyway. : )
I see what you mean Radcliff, but about copying an item—do you know that almost exact copies of American silver Morgan Dollars from the late 19th and early 20th century were copied in China and actually some passed by the experts who didn’t recognize what exactly they were buying at some coin auctions right here in the US eventually one of them spotted the very minute difference in comparison to the real Morgan Dollar. Take a closer look at how the C and C# keys are attached to the touches.
I don’t by that, it is a genuine Rudall and Rose.
Actually I wish I could buy it! 
Thanks for the serial numbers JMackvane. 721, 2976, 3498, 3743 are already in the register. I’ll include the other serial numbers in the register today. Yes, I compared how the pewter key touches are attached to the keys on “R&R 3260”, to those on my later flute R&R 4871. There is definitely a difference. On 4871 the key shafts are much finer engineered and under each end of the C# and C key shaft where the touch goes in the is no groove in the word of the foot joint, instead a round piece of cork is inset to protect the wood. Also the strike plates on all three of the pewter keys, including the placement of the four screws holding each plate to the foot joint are much better finished and neater than those on “R&R 3260”.
Jon-- give us your idea about the placement of the embouchure hole, and the stopper or cap on the head-joint, also the address on the body of the flute, ?
Jon C. thinks R&R 3260 is a genuine Rudall. It is possible, although the observations of JMackvane regarding the pewter key shafts & touches, the missing “Covent Garden”, lack of cork dot silencers, quality of strike plate details, all the wording in the main stamp been curved, the long head joint, are all discrepancies that make me wonder? The boxwood Rudalls were the budget flutes we are told, perhaps this flute had silver ware from a different supplier and not from the usual supplier of outsourced materials? If it is a fake Rudall, then it is looks to be very well made as people have pointed out. I wouldn’t know wherever to bid or not. If I did bid 1200 Swedish crowns that’s $1366, then the 24% extra, nudging $1700. On top of that postage and possible import duties when it come to Europe. If it is a fake from the 1800’s, is there a genuine R&R out there with the serial number 3260? Is it in Migoya’s secret register?
I’ve just taken a closer look at the foot keys in the photos. I see no problem whatever with the way the pewter plugs are fitted - it’s just that the rivet tops above the silver rings of the key arms are a bit battered. The arms otherwise look pretty normal, as do the connections to the touch levers at the “grasshopper’s knee” articulations. The rectangular cavities for cork buffers in the body where they land when at rest are pretty usual - just need cork in 'em! The only possible slight anomaly is that the edges of the strike plates do not appear to be chamfered. We cannot see in any of the photos whether there are cork buffer studs in the body for the three short keys, Bb, G# and short F, which are the norm. The main mounting block on the foot appears to have a steel reinforcing pin in its base on the Eb key side. I can’t see any other blocks with this, a typical R&R feature, but the photos do not give all necessary views and R&R were not consistent in their use of the pins.
I also note that the “15 Piazza” line of the address stamp is not in fact curved, but straight as normal. The “Covent Garden” line is missing, but that could simply be the stamp-striker’s accidental omission. We know the stamping at R&R could be somewhat haphazard. I think this a likelier explanation than that the flute is a counterfeit.
The stopper is not original, the head joint embouchure location just looks strange because they have a extra long distance from emb to crown, not unusual. The stamp with quadrafoil is authentic. I don’t see what the problem it… the Eb pewter is the same time period as the flute middle to late 1830’s. As far as I am concerned it is authentic and worth about $3-4K. Maybe Icshould buy a lottery ticket…