Old pipes for sale!!

A piper I know was left these pipes by a relative,he has tried a few times to get them to playing condition and has had them looked at by a few pipemakers and they have all said that they can not be restored to playing condition due to butchering in the past!!

But they do look the part ,and would make an impressive display decoration in a pub,hotel lobby or home and as that he is putting them up for sale ,made around 1840ish ,

PM me if your interested or know someone interested

RORY

Looks like W. Rousome. Or Kevin Thompson. Where’d the chanter keys go?

I bid $25.00

$25.50

Good Lord!!!

Those are the long-lost fabled {insert name here} set from the legendary pipe maker {put name here} of County {insert County here}!! Thought to have been burned for firewood during the black days of Ireland, to keep his family warm. This set, so the story goes, was used to compose repertoire classics such as {insert tunes here}.

Surely a pub-decoration would be a dishonour in the most immense and profound manner!! I expect at auction this set would not fetch less than £30,000. Rory, you have a rare and historical find here. Does anyone from NPU know about this? This is on par with finding the golden ticket for Wonka’s factory!! Congratulations!!

$25.75 !

Is it a Kenna set?

Or perhaps a Kenner set… ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenner

$47.11

I might be able to come up with 75 more cents…

Hey, has anybody go 54 cents they could loan me for the bus?

Now, now Rory, here’s the trick: you’re supposed to mention that the pipes are unplayable after somebody has spent much of their life savings on them.

It’s worked plenty of times before. :smiley:

How about 55 mouth-watering greenbacks? (uh..$55.00). I’m a packrat, this would make a lovely addition to my collection of ‘to be re-worked’ musical machinery.

Hi all

What a rare and beautiful set of pipes. Wheter they are in playing condition or not due to previous butchering is of no consequence.

For any aspiring makers it is vital that everything that has been done in the past whether it be good or bad is studied methodically.
Even if previous efforts at restoration have rendered them “unplayable” now, there is plenty of new information to be analysed.

It would be nice if they could end up belonging to someone who would really appreciate what they have.

I just hope they dont end up like many old sets recovered from deepest darkest lofts and basement, AND NAILED TO A WALL !!!

I recently restored a William Rowsome set in boxwood, belonging to a family from Dublin, Ireland and i must say from what i can gather from the picture shown the style seems a lot different. Maybe some photos of the turning style and drone ends and regulators would give more of a clue.

whoever made them, an instrument this old is a treasure and should be treated as such.

Gold luck

Agreed, but if they’re truly “butchered”, how does one know what was originally designed and what was added/deleted or - ruined ?

I find it tough to get excited about such a set if it’s only going to collect dust.

But in the interest of history, I increase my bid to $57.00.

This would be an ideal set for a museum IMO. Unplayable but is of historic age and looks nice. The museum would have to note their state of course so future pipemakers don’t waste time trying to use measurements from this set.

Pat.

Or from trying a “Mission Impossible: Uilleann” on them. :wink:

Agreed re: the museum.

Rory..I don’t know what pipermakers you’ve consulted with, but if you haven’t talked to Brad Angus yet , then you might want to consider it before you donate the pipes to museum. Brad Angus does some amazing restoration work, but if the pipes are " butchered" beyond repair like you say; then I agree with Patrick and a museum would be a great final resting place for them.

the pipes were given to Alain Froment with the view to hopefully being fully restored to playing condition.At first he was very excited about them ,but on further investagation he said the chanter had been altered too much. His guess was that someone had tried too raise them in pitch and then at a later stage bring them back down again.
It was going to work out expensive to have Alain to do further work on them so the owner took them back

The drones and regulators are in orginal condition but are quite worn and some mounts are missing,
It was Alain who came up with the date of manufacture ,but due to the key shape he could not reliable say who made them.
Due to the ware they must have been played quite alot when they were playing .

RORY

keys ,and springs can be replaced,fixed with new boxwood mounts,new bag n repair the leather on the bellows, and donot see why the drones wouldn’t work. .lots of pipers have extra chanters laying around.its like fixing up an old muscle car!i would make a decent offer if i had the scratch!would trade i nice guitar!

Heres more photos

As you can see there is a key missing on the bari reg

RORY

Is there anything wrong with the chanter that you can tell? Also, what is the owner asking for it?