Newbie question: dodgy pipes?

Hi,

I recently borrowed a set of practice pipes. The whistling’s going fairly well, so I thought, “why not?”

Don’t seem to have much problem coordinating the bellows and squeezing the bag. However, it sounds like the intonation is wrong on the chanter. I know, or at least guess, to put my thumb on the hole on the back of the chanter. The four notes running from all-three-fingers-of-left-hand-down up to no-fingers-but-thumb-still-on-back sound fine, but when I use my right hand on the lower holes, it all goes wrong. It doesn’t sound like the scale should at all.

Basically, I’m playing the chanter as if it were a whistle. Is this right? I notice that it has seven forward-facing holes, instead of six, and I’m ignoring the bottom hole for now.

I’ve read a bit about how some budget pipes are a false economy, to put it euphamistically. I’m wondering if that’s the case here. But I’m hoping it’s my untutored playing that’s to blame.

Cheers,

Steve

Stevie,

It sounds like you are picking up some rather bad habits. Do not think of the whistle as like the pipes.

Check out http://www.swaup.org they hold meetings near Taunton (if I remember correctly) every 2 months. There are quite a few pipers around the S.W. , you should find the assistance you need if you leave a message on the sites message board. Or I’m sure the lurking S.W. pipers might find this an opportune moment to make a post (eh Simon?)

I’m in Bath, feel free to contact me.

Duplicate post

Doubt it is the pipes. NOTE: Bottom hole is eb - to get bottom D all holes are closed and chanter lifted from the knee.

THere is an online tutor at http://www.uilleannpipestutor.com/

Fingering is nothing like the the whistle basically 2-1-2-1-2-1-1

From the bottom (Right) hand
All fingers down lift chanter - D
Pinky and Ring off - E
Just Middle finger off - F#
Lift Index Finger - G (and mid finger)
Top (LH) Hand (Bottom hand closed)
Just Ring Finger - A
Mid Finger - B (Keep Ring Up)
Just Index Finger - C#
Just Thumb - back d

Great, thanks fellas. I guess the good thing about bad playing is that, unlike bad pipes, it’s a lot easier to fix. :wink:

I think that here’s a perfect chanter for you:

http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php?t=49384

Apparently, you can play this exactly the same way you play the whistle.

Heh - wonderful idea, but I ought to do this properly if I can. :wink:

Practice chanters: are they any good as a UP primer? I have one, but even using the correct UP scale fingering, I can’t get a decent scale out of it (yet). Just wondering if they’re for highland great pipes rather than UP’s, and whether the fingering is different between the two.

The practice chanter I’ve got looks like this.

That is a practice chanter for the Highland pipes - do not use it for practicing UP, they’re worlds apart.

Stevie,

Seriously, get in touch with the South West Association of Uilleann Pipers http://www.swaup.org

You’re sure to get plenty of advice on this forum, but if you contact someone through SWAUP or get to one of their meetings, you can get realtime audio visual confirmation of what Uilleann Pipes are and what you need to do to get them to work. It’ll save you a lot of headache

(p.s. That chanter is not Uilleann related, don’t wear yourself out on it.)

Will do, Alan, I’ll chase that up and see what’s on.

Glad that I will be shot of the practice chanter - eBay for that thing.

And PLEASE! Change that avatar! :smiley:

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What took you so long. :laughing:

He should have a tunable one instead :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :smiling_imp:

David

Yes, I like the idea of a drum that can bravely change it’s pitch while it is being gutted by a pen knife… sssa-wweeeeeeeeeeeet. :laughing: