Hello every one!
Recently I’d like to learn Brian Finnegan’s Austurian Way set. I found sheet music from The Session, and I’v listened to this tune and watched video for like hundred times,
but when I started practicing slowly, one note by one note, it didnt make any sense, I felt I kinda ruined this tune~
I wondered if it was the transcription, or simply because I didnt do it right.
So anyone can share his/her experience or insight, I d appreciate very much. 
This?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1vbRmWmevY
I’m not familiar with this set, but I did notice that they list the first tune as Peter Street, but it seems to be a completely different tune that the Peter Street I’m familiar with, which is the Peter Street I see on The Session.
There might be a number of tunes called Peter Street.
Also, it’s a fairly common thing in the history of ITM recordings for track listings to be inaccurate, often due to band members mis-remembering tune names, the record company switching or misspelling titles, and various other causes. It’s quite common to have several tunes with the same name, and several names for a single tune.
Hopefully somebody with knowledge of that specific set will chime in.
But even if you happen to find sheet music which is the same setting as the one on a specific recording (which is unlikely, unless somebody has transcribed that specific recording) when you slowly sight-read though the sheet music it won’t sound like the recording. There is slow-down software which will enable you to play along with a recording at whatever speed you want. If I were you I’d dispense with sheet music altogether and slow down the music and learn it by playing along.
The Flook tune “Peter Street” is, I think, composed by them, and is also on the session.
Thank you so much!
That’s what I was saying, it must be a different tune. Thank God someone finnally tell me that!
Slowing down the music sounds like good, I ll give it a shot. I need to find the software you mentioned first though.
Anyway, thank you again , I v been stucking in this bottleneck for so long.
When you play it by sheet music, it is not the same tune Flook played.
Flook do tend to have a short title for their sets which is either the name of the first tune, or a complete new invention based on some association with the set.
So the tune you found on thesession might not be the tune you’re after, or also don’t forget that there is no editorial quality control on thesession (that’s harsher than it meant to be - other of course than the thesession community itself and the opportunity to comment and post more accurate transcriptions, but don’t just grab the first version if you’re after a specific version).
At the risk of reigniting the whole sheet music / ear debate, I wouldn’t say you should totally ignore the dots, just use them as a framework and a starting point, and if it really doesn’t work maybe you’ve got the dots for a different version! Also don’t forget that people transpose tunes for playing and/or transcription so the mismatch may be partly down to that as well …
Yes it is the same tune. Follow the link I gave. Click on the words “on the session”. It’s the tune that Flook played. Honest.
This is the software you want: Amazing Slow Downer. Couldn’t be without it. https://www.ronimusic.com/
I must admit, I have never used it. I find it is much the best - for me - to listen to the thing at speed, get it in my head and then replicate.
Yeah,you are quite right about that. and I couldn’t agree more about the point of framework thing, that’s exactly what I am doing now. Thank you very much!
Thank you very much! I found the right one this noon, so happy!
You’re welcome!
That’s quite a skill. I can learn some slow airs and moderate speed tunes by ears, but when it comes to fast ones, especially some improvisation parts, I ll be lost.
No matter how many times I listen. Envy such listen and replicate skills!
Thanks a lot. I found that Windows Media Player could do the same work, and it works good.
When Flook composes a tune, why don’t they name it a new name, rather than using the name of a common preexisting tune?
I know nothing about Flook other than what’s been on this thread, pretty much. Just strikes me as strange.
Anyhow it’s great for fans of specific groups to have had somebody transcribe their tunes and put them up on The Session.
I saw that The Session even notes that you have to play Peter Street on an A whistle to come out in the key heard on the recording. That’s very useful to know.
About transcriptions of tunes heard on recordings, you do have a couple issues:
if the sheet music was transcribed directly from the original recording, how accurate is it?
what if the transcription isn’t from the original recording, but rather the way somebody else plays the tune, say, the way the tune was heard played at a session?
One example of the latter process made an impression on me years ago. There was a tune named The Clumsy Lover, which was making the rounds of Irish sessions around here back in the 1980s. I heard several versions, both at sessions and performed on-stage by Irish bands. They varied in the number of parts, the order of parts, an in the nature of the parts.
In other words there wasn’t a consensus of how the tune went.
This amazed me, because there could be no mystery about the tune: it had been recently composed by a Canadian Highland piper named Neil Dickie, there was an album out with his own band playing it, and he had published a tune collection with the sheet music in it. (I heard his band playing it, live, the same year they debuted it.)
It served to show how in a short time-span a tune could be endlessly garbled and re-hashed through the process of transmission though the ITM session scene.
The Session has several of these garbled versions, and one version (#4) which is close to the original, however the syncopation in one part is incorrectly notated, as I point out in the comments.