Excellent condition. Take a look in the used instrument exchange.
https://forums.chiffandfipple.com/t/fs-cotter-6-key-and-reyburn-low-d-sold/76865/1
Thanks Jim. Here’s another.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-w973MNGkM
And this one’s an Eb Cotter but when I asked her a few years ago, her keyed D was a Cotter as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnnl33E4jn8&feature=relmfu
I’ve always really, really liked Eamonn’s flutes. If I could I’d be all over yours, but two keyed flutes is enough and I can’t part with either of the others.
Good luck!
Ive heard this Flute played by Jay, it sounds awesome, really good volume and tone, sleek and well made.
If I played Flute half as well as Jay I’d buy it
Just to make it plain, the Cotter is a Pratten, alright. A very simple and beautiful Pratten.
Actually based on what he told me years ago during a visit, his design is based on his old Hawkes flute, so not strictly speaking a Pratten model.
Thank you. I owned one and my subjective impression, FWIW, is that it looks, sounds and handles like
a Pratten, a very good one. It seemed to me to be approaching the league of the Olwell Pratten in goodness,
but from a somewhat different and less complex tonal direction.
This isn’t a flute for someone with small hands, by the way.
Well, Pratten was associated with Hawkes, so I guess it could be considered in that same general category, although I believe the earlier Hawkes flutes (which if I remember correctly is the type of Hawkes that Eamonn used as a model) were more in a class by themselves.
I had a 6-key Cotter flute myself for several years and it was a great flute.
Pratten was associated with Hawkes
uh…when exactly did that happen?
Pratten was with Boosey (Boosey & Son, then Boosey & Co.) the entirety of of his post-Hudson musical life. His wife, too.
By the time the firm became Boosey & Hawkes, Pratten was long dead.
Now, Brad, if you meant that Pratten flute models – and not the man – were associated with Hawkes, you’d be right in a way. Hawkes had their own model (they employed a much different foot key system, a modified Boehm) that was Prattenesque.
I always preferred the Hawkes flutes to the Boosey Pratten models, mostly for the foot design.
and I meant to say I agreed about Cotter’s flutes. Very nice players.
I even have a 6key boxwood one if anyone’s interested in owning it.
Sorry, I was just remembering something that John Skelton had said in the interview I did with him years ago: “It’s my Hawkes concert flute. I have been told (and I pass this on as the result of a very erudite conversation one night in a pub in Cork) that it was probably made by Pratten. Hawkes later joined with Boosey to form Boosey and Hawkes and Pratten was associated with both companies. I like to think of it as an early Pratten’s Perfected. It’s unusually light. Patrick Olwell was taken by it and took measurements a number of years ago. I think that he may have used some of those in his own flutes because when I hold an Olwell flute it feels very strange, almost as if I had my own flute in my hands.”
So probably the “very erudite conversation” might have been misremembered, filtered by whatever liquid was being served, or someone confused “Hudson” and “Hawkes”??
Yeah, I can hear John saying “erudite” just a bit euphemistically.
… And I wonder who our man in Cork might be?
yeah, i remember when John was quoted saying that. I chuckled. Much of the flute histories, of course, were bar conversations and got turned around.
I like to think of it as an early Pratten’s Perfected<<
that’s a chuckle, too, since it was already a very late one and hardly a Pratten’s Perfected by then.
I’m convinced PP wasn’t the actual bore of the flute but actually a combination with the double-thumb key for the left hand, which operated the Bb and the C.
I gather that from the earliest of the ads that Boosey produced, which advanced these before the traditional 8key variety.
Hudson made them, too, though there’s only been one I’ve seen referenced (#641 as I recall) that had that setup.
The early ones were still 8key flutes. I have #27 and it was indeed that, as was #49 that I once owned…and they were marked Pratten’s Perfected (a very cool marketing name, if you ask me).
Side note: I have #607 and have been playing it a little lately and it’s Pratten in body and volume, but the keys are rudall. Only one I’ve seen like it. Interesting.