German vs. English Flutes

[Rob Sharer]

You know, for some reason today I feel like playing my German flute.

One very recent survey shows them as being favoured 4-1 over the English version.


Rob

[pflipp]

Leaving us with the ever obvious question: where does that leave ze French?

[Kirk B]

Leaving us with the ever obvious question: where does that leave ze French?

They're not even in the round of 16

[hans]

Leaving us with the ever obvious question: where does that leave ze French?

the French are in France, quite a nice place to be!

[crookedtune]

I'm only two weeks in with my anonymous old German 10-key, and not a very experienced fluter to begin with. But I'm really, really liking it. And, of course, keys are a revelation.

Of course it might just be that the smaller holes and bore make it so nimble and accurate. Today I'll find out how I feel about it in a session situation.

[Jon C.]

I like them all!
My favorite German flute is my original 10 key Meyers flute, that I picked up for $125.
but I also like my Rudall Carte and Fentum... And of course, the American flutes are great players, but now they are out of they are out of they are out of the lineup.

[Kirk B]

I like them all!
My favorite German flute is my original 10 key Meyers flute, that I picked up for $125.
but I also like my Rudall Carte and Fentum... And of course, the American flutes are great players, but now they are out of they are out of they are out of the lineup.

Wow, I had no idea that Ghana made such good flutes.

Cheers,

Kirk

[Julia Delaney]

@Rob -- really 4-2. The ref was stoned and FIFA are only in it for the money.

[crookedtune]

OK, football. D'uh. I tuned out when the vuvuzelas arrived. My ears buzz enough the way it is.

[pflipp]

I escaped both the Tour and the vuvuzela's to go to Belgium and listen to a shawm... go figure Well actually, it was quite a cool Polish band which also featured our beloved flute.

At this same festival both Arie de Keyzer and Geert Lejeune were represented, and I had the opportunity to compare my French flute with their new makes. I can now much better understand all the remarks that have been made about the different kinds of flutes (even though there was a lot of background noise).

First of all, it was funny to notice that I had trouble 'filling' any of these flutes, being used to my narrow bore, small embouchure (and finger) hole Thibouville flute. Especially the Pratten types seemed like an amazingly large open gap to me. But luckily I could also let the stand-keeper play and hear great differences. He referred to my instrument as a'little flute' and 'chamber music instrument', which I think were both just remarks. It was very noticeable that the flute had its own qualities, but that they were highly different than those of the newer instruments: like comparing apples and oranges.

I realize I am consistently off topic, since this thread is about German flutes, but I always thought that these were like the French, only a tiny bit wider and in an achaic pitch But given the comments here, I may be completely wrong. At least today I did confirm to myself that there's no good comparision of flutes unless it's a live one -- with a player that can master the different embouchures. And I notice that I have still a lot of comparision to do, whenever the opportunity rises.

[Rob Sharer]

Hard to say if German flutes are better than French flutes, since there aren't any left to compare with.


Safe to say, though, that they're better than Argentines....



Rob

[crookedtune]

Maybe, but it's klose.

[Akiba]

Hey Rob,

Why are the Germans such great footballers? (No joke intended.) Seriously, they are so damn strong every World Cup since I've been watching since 1986, another great Argentine/Germany showdown (though this last one was more of a beat down). I guess most of their great athletes play football, probably has something to do with it; but it's more than that--discipline, mental focus, team play??

Jason

[hans]

The German team shows some brilliant teamwork, born out of years of disciplined team practise and great coaching. Players have been playing together for years, right from the time they played in the youth squads. Germany has a good system of coaching youth players, young talent is promoted throughout the clubs.

Apart from brilliant teamwork they got excellent individual players who can play creatively. They are all good in passing balls, and they keep moving, and some can move really fast with the ball. So they have been launching lightning fast counter attacks, out of solid defending. Perhaps the youthfulness of the team gives them an edge in athletic strength as well.

I think the German team has always been good at teamwork. But this worldcup team shows a youthful creative spirit, and they are not stuck in defensive football, but keep attacking when they can, which is so refreshing. And in their attacks they are creative and work together. Great football born out of great passion and lots of hard work, discipline and team training.

Looking forward to see the game against Spain.

[pflipp]

Arg Sometimes it's so hard to find people's double meanings on this forum... (At least that also means that I normally can't distinguish an actual flamewar from a friendly ironic conversation, but simply always assuming the latter makes life very easy around here )

But well... Since there are no flutes historically being made in Holland, but we're still in the game, all I can say is that we will probably play all of them others

...Which is kind of a lie too, because it's all Boehm and recorders around here. And then we tend to loose from the German flutes in the finals Bad analogy.