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RE: 19th century piper.

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Hi Gang,

I came across this information that I thought might be of interest. It seems that James McAuliffe was a late 19th century piper that made quite a few Edison cylinders and later on a 78 of two. The cylinders seem to be scattered. I believe these are the earliest recordings of UP's. Its interesting that when early 20th century pipers are discusses McAuliffe is never mentioned. Although not a fantastic piper he was certainly as good as Pat Fitzpatrick, Tom Ennis and a few other early pipers. Perhaps Kevin Reitmann will have a few words.

http://www.tinfoil.com/mcauliffe.htm


McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Cock o' the north / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Columbia: 31600, September, 1901 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: The Cock o' the north

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Coulin / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 7716, February, 1901 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: The Coulin

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Dirge of the Carlin / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 7714, February, 1901 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: The dirge of the Carlin

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Donneybrook Fair / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 7231, June - 30 September, 1899 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: Donnybrook Fair

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Donneybrook Fair / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
London: Edison: 12882, January, 1904 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: Donnybrook Fair jig

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Highland laddie march / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Columbia: 31601, September, 1901 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: Highland laddie march

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Maid of the beach / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 7713, February, 1901 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: The maid of the beach

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Minstrel boy / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 7229, June - 30 September, 1899 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: The Minstrel boy

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Minstrel boy / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 8487, September, 1903 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: The Minstrel boy

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Miss McCloud's reel / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 7230, June - 30 September, 1899 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: The Miss McCloud's reel

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Miss McCloud's reel : bagpipe solo : Scotch airs / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 8184, October, 1902 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: The Miss McCloud's reel

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
O'Donnell Abu / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 7715, February, 1901 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: O'Donnell abu

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Paddy on the turnpike / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 7504, August, 1901 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: Paddy on the turnpike

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Paddy on the turnpike : Irish reel / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
London: Edison: 12881, January, 1904 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: Paddy on the turnpike

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Pigeon on the gate / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 7653, January, 1901 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: The pigeon on the gate

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Pretty maid milking her cow / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 7719, February, 1901 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: The pretty maid milking her cow

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Pretty maid milking her cow / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
London: Edison: 12880, January, 1904 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: The pretty maid milking her cow

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Red haired man's wife / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 7718, February, 1901 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: The red haired man's wife

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Rights of man / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 7717, February, 1901 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: The rights of man
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Thanks, Pat. The story was a hoot:

A humorous story about this photo . . . Related by John McAuliffe, great-grandson of James C. McAuliffe:

Working in a penitentiary at the time, John brought this photograph to work with him one day to have it framed. An inmate of the prison asked, "What is that, a Gatling gun?" The prison psychologist remarked to John that the inmate showed "the typical criminal response: anything tubular must be a weapon."

Later, when John brought the framed photograph home, his father asked, "What is that, a Gatling gun?"
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Pat forgot this one:

McAuliffe, James C. (Cornelius?)
Stack of barley / James C. McAuliffe, (uilleann pipes)
New York: Edison: 7232, June - 30 September, 1899 - 1 wax cylinder: mono
Contents: The Stack of barley

Pat, if you have rip off people's information that you "came across" at least have the courtesy to reproduce it correctly :poke:

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Post by sean an piobaire »

SUPPOSEDLY
Mr. McAuliffe never made it into Francis O'Neill's "Irish Minstrels and Musicians"
(Chicago 1913) BECAUSE......he was.... a PHILANDERER........(q.v.)
with an honest and long suffering Wife and 2 Children waiting for him at home.
It seems that Vaudeville/Music Hall Pipers could be as IM-Moral as the Public always
suspected/KNEW they were.... which included ALL sorts of entertainers, artistes, etc.
How much, if any, of this OLD, PETRIFIED, GOSSIP is TRUE is another question.
So, I'm Calling Mr. Jim McGuire, THE GO-TO MAN for Irish Piping History in the USA.
What say You, Jim ?
meanwhile.........
Rage Against The Gossip !
Sean "Repro-bate-All Folsom
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That's about all the info extant about McAuliffe. In the Piping of Patsy Touhey Mitchell and Small include that remark from Francis O'Neill about the companies wanting Touhey to record but not being able to meet his price, and how "They found a cheaper man, McAuliffe, and cheaper work as well of course. He is now dead," and M/S remark about how the Chief's choice of words makes the cheapness and death sound like cause and effect! These cuts of JM on the web are all I've ever heard of him.

Anyway, I'm a champion of Tom Ennis, he wasn't up to Touhey, Gallagher, or Carney, but was a steady and skilled piper, better than amateurs like Fitzpatrick and McAullife for sure. Listen to the duo of Ennis and Morrison playing the Limestone Rock and the Bucks at archive.org, that's some fiery fingering. McGuire sent me copy of some correspondence from O'Neill where he says that in 1920 there were two, count 'em two pipers worthy of being referred to as such in the world, namely Touhey and Delaney, who were dying and insane at the time of writing respectively, so there's the last word in skewed perspective, as O'Neill had heard the likes of Willie Rowsome, who no doubt was a good piper, or other musicians like Eddie Mullaney who did record a bit later on.

O'Neill also specifically dismisses Tom Ennis in his letter. Tom played a bit fast on the records he made for Victor at the time but I enjoy the results anyway, and he switched to decaf later in his career, too. Actually I like everyone; as people have remarked in all kinds of genres, you can learn something from the worst __________ (insert practitioner here) in the world. What appeals to me is playing that's inspired, someone who displays exuberance in their music; technically brilliant but mechanical and cold playing doesn't. How about that.

When you combine exuberance and flawless technique you get your Séamus Ennis, your Johnny Doran, etc.
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Did Dinny Delaney actually go insane?

Where did he end up? Do you know?
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Barney Delaney is who O'Neill was talking about.

Dinney was hassled by the RIC, or the Black and Tans perhaps - I'm pretty sure they were around later though, they were post Civil War right? Anyway he was shook down by the authorities for playing seditious music, thereafter he signed his name as "The Rebel Piper"! Good on you, Dinney. He won or placed at an Oireachtas at a surprisingly late date - 1919 or something. Forget when he died. Great piper.

I've written about this before here, was relating this to someone this weekend at the tionol in Seattle: Caoimhín Mac Aoidh says the story was that in Galway in the old days fiddlers wouldn't tune down to play along with Dinney and his Bb Egan set, but rather learned how to play in the flat keys, and that's why east Galway has this tradition of music in D minor C major etc. Your Paddy Fahy tunes etc. Paddy would have learned from fiddlers who played with Dinney in the old days.
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Kevin L. Rietmann wrote:... they were post Civil War right?


Pre-Civil War, during the War of Independence.

Did I read that Dinny didn't win the Oireachteas but went along as an "exhibition piper"? There was some comment about his pipes being in need of tuning and his regulators not even being reeded.
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Black and Tans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Black and Tans (Irish: Dúchrónaigh) was one of two newly recruited bodies, composed largely of World War I veterans, employed by the Royal Irish Constabulary from 1920 to 1921 to suppress revolution in Ireland. Although it was established to target the Irish Republican Army, it became notorious through its numerous attacks on the Irish civilian population.
Did I read that Dinny didn't win the Oireachteas but went along as an "exhibition piper"? There was some comment about his pipes being in need of tuning and his regulators not even being reeded.
Doesn't ring a bell. The tally of Oirechtas winners was in some issue of An Píobaire. Dinny won one year early on and then only placed in subsequent years, becoming quite testy about the judgment, putting offers in the press contesting any and all pipers to match him in a private competition.
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