another piper's grip thread
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another piper's grip thread
Hi folks,
As I am in the process of obtaining a flute with a larger finger-spread, I have been paying more attention to how other people hold their flutes. On my folk flute I used the famous "Irish grip" - flat fingers, first pads. With a larger flute I may have to tend even more toward piper's grip. And so I happened across a very nice video of THREE awesome flute players playing together (cool enough in itself!), all three using Irish or piper's grip, or some personal variant. I just thought I'd share this because of the high quality of the music, but also because it seemed a little unusual to see three players and not a Rockstro within a rock's throw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCU07LkzSvE
I must say that John Wynne looks a tad uncomfortable (or at least I would be!) - it just goes to show that there's no "right" style for everyone.
Cheers,
Pete
As I am in the process of obtaining a flute with a larger finger-spread, I have been paying more attention to how other people hold their flutes. On my folk flute I used the famous "Irish grip" - flat fingers, first pads. With a larger flute I may have to tend even more toward piper's grip. And so I happened across a very nice video of THREE awesome flute players playing together (cool enough in itself!), all three using Irish or piper's grip, or some personal variant. I just thought I'd share this because of the high quality of the music, but also because it seemed a little unusual to see three players and not a Rockstro within a rock's throw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCU07LkzSvE
I must say that John Wynne looks a tad uncomfortable (or at least I would be!) - it just goes to show that there's no "right" style for everyone.
Cheers,
Pete
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Re: another piper's grip thread
That is bucking frilliant. And good on yer for promulgating a sensible name for that grip! Cheers,dhamilingu wrote:...and not a Rockstro within a rock's throw.
Rob
Re: another piper's grip thread
yes he does look a tad uncomfortable and probably gets "away with it" because he he is a hefty fellow with strong musculature.dhamilingu wrote: ......I must say that John Wynne looks a tad uncomfortable (or at least I would be!) - it just goes to show that there's no "right" style for everyone.
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The player that looks most comfortable in the pipers' grip in this video is the one in the middle, whose grip involves a LH thumb position closest to the description of one of the classical indian bansuri grips described here:-
http://www.bansuriflute.com/Bansuriflut ... ip%22.html
See article author's grip
and his teacher's (Hariprasad Chaurasia) grip.
Pannalal Ghosh also employed a similar thumb but the picture in this link does not show him in play.
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Re: another piper's grip thread
Really interesting video - and follow up pointing out the use of the left hand thumb of the middle player (thanks Talasiga for noting that). Just tried bringing my thumb around from underneath the flute to more of a 'chin pin' position. It really feels comfortable and steadied things up considerably.
thanks
Stephen
thanks
Stephen
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Re: another piper's grip thread
Goodness gracious me!
Someone understood one of my posts AND found it useful AND thanked me for it.
Wait till Wren hears about this!
Someone understood one of my posts AND found it useful AND thanked me for it.
Wait till Wren hears about this!
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Re: another piper's grip thread
It does seem somewhat unusual....
any idea on what he's got wrong?
any idea on what he's got wrong?
Re: another piper's grip thread
now that I ponder a bit, I don't think its that unusual if you consider his location: Scotland.
Hans has also, sometimes, understood my posts, found them useful and thanked me for it. Also situated in Scotland.
I also remember that, some years ago, during a discussion of modes, BigDavy understood something I said, found it useful and also thanked me for it. BigDavy is also in Scotland.
Hans has also, sometimes, understood my posts, found them useful and thanked me for it. Also situated in Scotland.
I also remember that, some years ago, during a discussion of modes, BigDavy understood something I said, found it useful and also thanked me for it. BigDavy is also in Scotland.
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Re: another piper's grip thread
must be a scottish thig then
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Re: another piper's grip thread
What's the seond tune? I've heard it a few times, but never really got to grips with it ...
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Re: another piper's grip thread
There you go, move to Scotland and you'll be richnow that I ponder a bit, I don't think its that unusual if you consider his location: Scotland.
Hans has also, sometimes, understood my posts, found them useful and thanked me for it. Also situated in Scotland.
I also remember that, some years ago, during a discussion of modes, BigDavy understood something I said, found it useful and also thanked me for it. BigDavy is also in Scotland.
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Re: another piper's grip thread
thats a radical hypothesis. one would have thought that the courtesy of expressing thanks was a global thing.taity wrote:must be a scottish thig then
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aye true . and who you calling a hippopotamus
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Re: another piper's grip thread
The problem is later in life, when they start to have neck related problems, like Catherine McEvoy. Of course, Chiropractors love this style...dhamilingu wrote:Hi folks,
As I am in the process of obtaining a flute with a larger finger-spread, I have been paying more attention to how other people hold their flutes. On my folk flute I used the famous "Irish grip" - flat fingers, first pads. With a larger flute I may have to tend even more toward piper's grip. And so I happened across a very nice video of THREE awesome flute players playing together (cool enough in itself!), all three using Irish or piper's grip, or some personal variant. I just thought I'd share this because of the high quality of the music, but also because it seemed a little unusual to see three players and not a Rockstro within a rock's throw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCU07LkzSvE
I must say that John Wynne looks a tad uncomfortable (or at least I would be!) - it just goes to show that there's no "right" style for everyone.
Cheers,
Pete
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Re: another piper's grip thread
Recently at a set of workshops I went to I was advised to change my right hand grip to something closer to pipers grip. In fact I went the whole hog and I now cover the holes with the pads in the middle of the finger. Once I got used to it - and there was the inevitable going backwards first - I found I was able to get a good strong low D, E and F# where they had been somewhat week before, especially D and E. It also makes finger shakes easier - a very effective decoration of long notes in slow airs.
Geoff
I have more than once been warned against that particular position for the very reason someone gave above. You are setting yourself up for neck trouble in time but it seems to be not uncommon among traditional Irish flute players.I must say that John Wynne looks a tad uncomfortable (or at least I would be!) - it just goes to show that there's no "right" style for everyone.
Geoff
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Re: another piper's grip thread
Gary Shannon uses this position as well. He's got the killer tone but I couldn't twist myself up like that.Tootler wrote: I have more than once been warned against that particular position for the very reason someone gave above. You are setting yourself up for neck trouble in time but it seems to be not uncommon among traditional Irish flute players.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh--OYB5mNo
Regards,
Kirk