Off To Sea Once More

[Whistling Archer]

This song is on Grateful Dawg " Shady Grove" album.
Does anybody know if they borrowed a old tune & put new lyrics, or is this the original sea shanty?
I picked it out the other day, kinda fun but mournful tune

[fearfaoin]

This song is on Grateful Dawg " Shady Grove" album.

Well, the song is older than the Grisman/Garcia
collaborations. The Dubliners recorded it in '68
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_It_Again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Af7VxzrqE

I'm thinking it's the "original" shanty (in that it
is in the form it was in when it was collected).

[MTGuru]

http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~z ... emore.html

A.L. Lloyd and Ewan MacColl would be the modern source (1956). Lloyd: "Our version is from Ted Howard of Barry." I guess that implies tune and lyric. It's the melody I've always heard for this, and I think it's in Stan Hugill's book (buried in a storage box here somewhere).

[Feadoggie]

Where'd it go?

Anyway, several sources I have read say that it is a traditional song. Lots of different lyrics are around. It was recorded by A.L. Lloyd, Ewan MacColl and Harry Corbett in the mid/late sixties. That kind of became the standard reference version as far as I know. Lloyd and MacColl both have had musically talented offspring.

Grisman is da man!

Feadoggie

[Whistling Archer]

Where'd it go?

Anyway, several sources I have read say that it is a traditional song. Lots of different lyrics are around. It was recorded by A.L. Lloyd, Ewan MacColl and Harry Corbett in the mid/late sixties. That kind of became the standard reference version as far as I know. Lloyd and MacColl both have had musically talented offspring.

Grisman is da man!

Feadoggie

Grisman is the man, but Jerry was the "voice' love it or hate it , it cant be duplicated.
other good shantys on that shady grove album as well.
R.I.P Jerry

[Feadoggie]

Well, Old and In the Way did a lot to keep bluegrass alive in its day. It sure fostered the newgrass and psychograss genres. Dawg music! Gotta have it.

It was nice to see David out and about with John Sebastian again recently.

Feadoggie

[s1m0n]

I have early versions on AL Lloyd's Leviathan (67), and by Louis Killen on Steady as She Goes.

[s1m0n]

Lloyd and MacColl both have had musically talented offspring.

MacColl's kids didn't/don't perform much in the folk world, although his daughter Kirsty recorded Fairytale of New York with the Pogues. His inlaws, however, are the Seegers - Pete and Mike Seeger. Ewan MacColl's widow is Peggy Seeger. Mike died a few days ago, btw.

[Feadoggie]

I have early versions on AL Lloyd's Leviathan (67),

From the liner notes of Leviathan

Estimable Stan Hugill said this song in “known to every seaman”. Well, to a good few, anyway. Who was Rapper Brown, the villain of the piece? Particularly during the latter days of sail, many lodging house keepers encouraged seamen to fall in debt to them, then signed them aboard a hardcase ship in return for the “advance note” loaned by the company to the sailor ostensibly to buy gear for the voyage. Paddy West of Great Howard Street, Liverpool, was well-known for this, likewise John da Costa of the same seaport. But we do not find Rapper Brown in this rogues' gallery. Perhaps there's some confusion here with the fearsome Shangai Brown of San Francisco, through whose ministrations many a British seaman awoke frm a drunken or drugged sleep do find himself aboard a vessel for the bowhead whaling grounds of the Bering Sea, a trip few men in their senses signed for, unless desperately hard pushed. Our version is from Ted Howard of Barry.

MacColl's kids didn't/don't perform much in the folk world, although his daughter Kirsty recorded Fairytale of New York with the Pogues. His inlaws, however, are the Seegers - Pete and Mike Seeger. Ewan MacColl's widow is Peggy Seeger. Mike died a few days ago, btw.

Yep! Kirsty met a sticky end as I recall, not a leviathan but water borne just the same.

Feadoggie

[fearfaoin]

...
Perhaps there's some confusion here with the fearsome Shangai Brown of San Francisco, through whose ministrations many a British seaman awoke frm a drunken or drugged sleep do find himself aboard a vessel for the bowhead whaling grounds of the Bering Sea, a trip few men in their senses signed for, unless desperately hard pushed.

In most versions I've heard of this, our
protagonist meets with Shangai Brown
as he walked down Battery Street.

[MTGuru]

Just realized this is the same tune usually sung to Spancil Hill. Duh!

[fearfaoin]

Just realized this is the same tune usually sung to Spancil Hill. Duh!

Oh, weird. There are a couple discrepancies,
but that's pretty much it, yeah.

[Piperbob]

here you go

X: 1
T:Chant de marins : Off to sea once more
E:12
Z:Roger Négaret (98)
R:
C:Trad.
S:
A:Royaume-Uni
Q:1/4=152
M:3/4
L:1/16
F:http://termen.free.fr/danses/chants/Cha ... cemore.abc 2009-09-05 10:37:10 UT
K:G
T:Intro
E4 F4 G4 | A4 B4 d4 | e4 d4 B4 | d8 d4 | B8 B4 |\
A4 G4 F4 | E12 | [e8B8g8] |]
T:Thème
B4 | "Em"B8 B4 | G4 A4 B4 | "D"A8 F4 | D4 E4 F4 |\
"Em"G8 E4 | E8 D4 | (E12 | E8) E4 | G8 A4 |\
B4 c4 d4 | e4 d4 B4 | "D"d8 d4 | "Em"B8 B4 | \
"D"A8 d4 | "Em"(B12 | B4) G4 F4 | E8 G4 | \
B4 c4 d4 | e4 d4 B4 | "D"d8 d4 | "Em"B8 B4 | "D"A4 F4 A4 |\
"Em"(B12 | B8) B,4 | B4 B4 B4 | G4 A4 B4 | "D"A4 F4 E4 |\
D4 E4 F4 | "Em"G4 E4 F4 | E8 D4 | (E12 | E8) |]
T:Refrain
B4 | "D"(d12 | d8) B4 | (A12 | A8) B4 |\
A8 B4 | A4 G4 E4 | "G"(D12 | D8) D4 |\
"Em"B4 B4 B4 | G4 A4 B4 | "D"A4 F4 E4 | D4 E4 F4 | "Em"G4 E4 F4 |\
E8 D4 | (E12 | E8) F4 | G4 E4 F4 | E8 D4 | (E12 | E8) |]
%%newpage
%%bf 1.
%%rm When first I landed in Liverpool
%%rm I went upon the Spree
%%rm While money lasts I spend it fast
%%rm Got drunk as drunk could be
%%rm But before my money was all gone
%%rm On liquor and the whores
%%rm I made up my mind that I was inclined
%%rm To go to sea no more.
%%rm
%%it No more, no more, to go to sea no more
%%it I made up my mind that I was inclined
%%it To go to sea no more.
%%rm
%%bf 2.
%%rm As I was walking down the street
%%rm I met with Angeline
%%rm She said come home with me my lad
%%rm And we'll have a cracking time
%%rm But when I awoke it was no joke
%%rm I found I was all alone
%%rm My silver watch and my money too
%%rm And my whole bloody gear was gone.
%%rm
%%it Was gone, was gone,
%%it my whole bloody gear was gone
%%it When I awoke it was no joke
%%it For my whole bloody gear was gone.
%%rm
%%bf 3.
%%rm As I was walking down the street
%%rm I met big Rapper Brown
%%rm I asked him if he would take me in
%%rm And he looked at me with a frown
%%rm He said last time you was paid off
%%rm With me you chalked-up no score
%%rm But I'll take your advance
%%rm and I'll give youse a chance
%%rm To go to sea once more.
%%rm
%%it Once more, once more, to go to sea once more
%%it I'll take your advance
%%it and I'll give youse a chance
%%it To go to sea once more.
%%newpage
%%rm
%%bf 4.
%%rm He shipped me aboard of a whaling ship
%%rm Bound for the Arctic seas
%%rm Where cold winds blow
%%rm and there's frost and snow
%%rm And Jamaica rum would freeze
%%rm And worse to bear I'd no hardweather gear
%%rm For I'd lost all my dunnage ashore
%%rm It was then that I wished that I was dead
%%rm So I'd go to sea no more.
%%rm
%%it No more, no more, I'd go to sea no more
%%it It was then that I wished that I was dead
%%it So I'd go to sea no more.
%%rm
%%bf 5.
%%rm Sometimes we're catching whales my lads
%%rm But mostly we get none
%%rm With a twenty-foot oar in every paw
%%rm From five o'clock in the morn'
%%rm And when daylight's gone
%%rm and the night coming on
%%rm You rest upon your oar
%%rm And oh boys you wish that you was dead
%%rm Or snug with the girls ashore.
%%rm
%%it Ashore, ashore, snug with the girls ashore
%%it Oh boys you wish that you was dead
%%it Or snug with the girls ashore.
%%rm
%%bf 6.
%%rm Come all you seafaring lads
%%rm That listen to my song
%%rm When you go a-big-boating boys
%%rm I'll have you not go wrong
%%rm You take my tip when you come off a trip
%%rm Don't go with any whore
%%rm But get married instead
%%rm and have all night in bed
%%rm And go to sea no more.
%%rm
%%it No more, no more, don't go to sea no more
%%it Get married my lads and have all night in bed
%%it And go to sea no more.
%%newpage
%%rm TRADUCTION FRANÇAISE
%%rm
%%rm
%%textrmfont Courier 16
%%textitfont Courier-Oblique 16
%%textbffont Courier-Bold 16
%%rm La première fois que j'ai débarqué à Liverpool
%%rm Je suis parti en bordée
%%rm Tant que l'argent a duré je l'ai vite dépensé
%%rm Je me suis saoûlé autant que j'ai pu
%%rm Mais avant que tous mes sous soient partis
%%rm En gnôle et en putes
%%rm J'ai pris la décision
%%rm De ne plus jamais prendre la mer
%%rm
%%it Plus jamais, plus jamais,
%%it Plus jamais prendre la mer
%%it J'ai pris la décision
%%it De ne plus jamais prendre la mer.
%%rm
%%rm Tout en me promenant dans la rue
%%rm J'ai rencontré Angeline
%%rm Elle dit viens chez moi mon gars
%%rm On va se prendre du bon temps
%%rm Mais au réveil c'était pas drôle
%%rm Je me suis retrouvé tout seul
%%rm Ma montre en argent, mon fric
%%rm Et tout mon foutu sac étaient partis
%%rm
%%it Parti, parti, tout mon foutu sac était parti,
%%it Au réveil c'était pas drôle,
%%it Tout mon foutu sac était parti.
%%rm
%%rm Tout en me promenant dans la rue
%%rm J'ai rencontré le gros Rapper Brown
%%rm Je lui ai demandé s'il voulait me prendre
%%rm Et il m'a regardé en fronçant les sourcils
%%rm Il dit la dernière fois que tu as été payé
%%rm Tu n'as pas fait d'ardoise chez moi
%%rm Mais je vais prendre ton avance
%%rm et te donner une chance
%%rm De reprendre la mer encore une fois
%%rm
%%it Encore une fois, encore une fois,
%%it Encore une fois prendre la mer
%%it Je vais prendre ton avance et te donner une chance
%%it De prendre la mer encore une fois.
%%newpage
%%rm
%%rm Il m'a embarqué sur un baleinier
%%rm En partance pour les mers arctiques
%%rm Où soufflent les vents froids et la neige
%%rm Et la glace ferait geler le rhum de la Jamaique
%%rm Et ce qui est pis je n'avais pas de vêtements
%%rm pour le gros temps
%%rm Car j'avais perdu toutes mes affaires à terre
%%rm Et là je souhaitais être mort pour ne plus prendre la mer.
%%rm
%%it Plus jamais, plus jamais,
%%it Plus jamais reprendre la mer
%%it Et là je souhaitais être mort
%%it Pour ne plus jamais reprendre la mer.
%%rm
%%rm Des fois on attrape des baleines les gars
%%rm Mais la plupart du temps guère
%%rm Avec un aviron de vingt pieds dans chaque pogne
%%rm Dès cinq heures du matin
%%rm Et quand le jour s'en va et que la nuit vient
%%rm On se repose sur son aviron
%%rm Oh sûr les gars qu'on souhaite être mort
%%rm Ou bien au chaud avec une fille à terre
%%rm
%%it A terre, à terre,
%%it Bien au chaud avec une fille à terre,
%%it Oh sûr les gars qu'on souhaite être mort
%%it Ou bien au chaud avec une fille à terre.
%%rm
%%rm Venez tous braves marins qui écoutez ma chanson
%%rm Quand vous partez sur des grands navires les gars
%%rm Je vous conseille de bien vous tenir
%%rm Croyez-moi au retour de campagne
%%rm N'allez pas avec ces putains,
%%rm Mais plutôt mariez-vous pour passer toute la nuit au lit
%%rm Et ne plus jamais reprendre la mer.
%%rm
%%it Plus jamais, plus jamais,
%%it Plus jamais reprendre la mer,
%%it Mariez-vous les gars pour passer toute la nuit au lit
%%it Et ne reprenez plus jamais la mer.

[MTGuru]

Yes, that's the basic melody. I don't think the OP was in doubt of that.