PICK the PARA

[Innocent Bystander]

A chap I know, name of France Ellul (his family if from Malta originally) plays Harp. His group is called "Anwen", and his fellow musicians are Phillipa, who plays cello, and Tarseem, who plays Tabla. Occasionally Alan joins them with Whistle & recorder.

It doesn't always work, but some O'Carolan tunes come out very well with cello and tabla accompaniment.

[Ceili_whistle_man]

I had this picked out originally;
"After my recital, Dr. Sharma came to see me, saying, “It always amazes us how you Westerners are able to play note-by-note memorized pieces for hours.” I replied, “Its even more amazing how you Indian musicians are able to go on improvising in a single raga for hours, always fresh, and never repeating a phrase!”
Then I decided to read again what was asked in the OP..... and gave up as I thought I still had no idea what talasiga was asking for
I settled on ' ' and I'm not sure if I am about to change that just yet

[crookedtune]

Hey, you got it!


Anyway can we talk on this quote in the next pages ?

So what's the subject? Music based in dance-accompaniment versus exploratory improvisation? No reason not to talk about it, I guess.

[emmline]

Musical genres for $500, Alex:

How are Indian ragas more similar to jazz than to ITM?

[Denny]

that's an easy one

'cause ya don't have to memorize tunes!

[mutepointe]

No wonder I can never tell where the verses and the refrains are and why they really do all sound the same to me because they're all original compositions. No offense to the music and culture but the music really does goes nowhere to me.

[dubhlinn]

that's an easy one

'cause ya don't have to memorize tunes!

Ye do.
What would be the point if every crazy person played the same thing...

There are Rules...

Slan,
D.

[dubhlinn]

No wonder I can never tell where the verses and the refrains are and why they really do all sound the same to me because they're all original compositions. No offense to the music and culture but the music really does goes nowhere to me.

Listen a bit harder, or longer.. it's there.

Slan,
D.

[MTGuru]

I love ragas. Scott Joplin's "The Entertainer" is my favorite.

[Doug_Tipple]

I love ragas. Scott Joplin's "The Entertainer" is my favorite.

I prefer Joplin's "Ragatime Dance".

[Nanohedron]

Anyway can we talk on this quote in the next pages ?

I would like to hear your ideas first, but I'll put in my two bits. I'm a student of a Western tradition in which melodies seem structured - maybe "prescribed" is the better word - but at its higher levels the tradition actually urges variation and improvisation on a theme (sound familiar?), so at the end of the day some apples and oranges are to me sometimes just fruit. Not trying to be cute or dodge the issue, here; I do think this way - that is, ferreting out how things are not different - so it's hard for me to touch on cultural, cross-cultural, and psychological markers without a starting point unless, aside from the feelers I just sent out, we're comparing present-day Western Classical to Indian Classical.

I would say that the subject is enormously multifaceted, and analysis of it would require scribing a scholarly tome. I'd rather be as concise as possible. If it's possible.

[Denny]

good save old boy!

I was beginning to worry that we would be back at "hot dish"

[Nanohedron]

Huh. Find the similarity in THIS to anything else worldwide. "The food of my people", indeed. What braniac told him to put in cheddar cheese? Ptui.

[jsluder]

What braniac told him to put in cheddar cheese? Ptui.

Maybe he once ate at the Pour House Bar & Grill in North Bend, WA, and was inspired to improvise. You see, their specialty is "Cheesy Tots".

[Nanohedron]

Hmph. If we're goin' black tie, Minnesotans put a layer of tater tots on top just for fancy. NO CHEESE.