Am I the only one..

rebl_rn · Post by **rebl_rn** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:47 pm

Just saw a picture of a couple of fans celebrating because they got tickets to the memorial service. Something about being SOOOOO excited and happy to go to what is basically a funeral seems wrong....

The Weekenders · Post by **The Weekenders** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:05 pm

In 100 years, people will wonder why he was so famous. They won't have Boomer sensibility and sentiments. They will see a child star gone bad, still singing in the same vocal range with athletic but ultimately forgettable dance routines. They will marvel at how spectacular his fame was. If you say, "but Weekender, he was SO talented," I will remind you that the performing arts are filled with very talented people who are gifted from childhood (but most often, not in the public eye from early on). Sammy Davis Jr comes to mind; he sold millions of records, he sang, he danced, he could play multiple instruments, but now, he is known more as a multi-talented entertainer, rather than an enduring musical force of creativity. I just don't think he will be regarded as he is now, and certainly not deserving of a stamp or a natl. day of mourning, as Al Sharpton is now advocating.

It's an awful lot of flash and fizzle and maybe everyone got a little too cooked, but I was never a fan, so..... and yes, I am a fan of Motown and such. To me, that Bad song was the turning point, where he lost my credibility and interest and just seemed ridiculous. He went from being a child singing beyond his years, to somebody beyond childhood years acting and singing in child-like fashion, and even supporting the contention with personal and ultimately scandalous behavior.

Post by **Dale** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:06 pm

I'm not sure this has yet even matched the death coverage of Pamela Anderson or Anna Nicole Smith, whichever one died a couple of years ago.

dubhlinn · Post by **dubhlinn** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:17 pm

The Weekenders wrote:In 100 years, people will wonder why he was so famous. They won't have Boomer sensibility and sentiments. They will see a child star gone bad, still singing in the same vocal range with athletic but ultimately forgettable dance routines. They will marvel at how spectacular his fame was. If you say, "but Weekender, he was SO talented," I will remind you that the performing arts are filled with very talented people who are gifted from childhood (but most often, not in the public eye from early on). Sammy Davis Jr comes to mind; he sold millions of records, he sang, he danced, he could play multiple instruments, but now, he is known more as a multi-talented entertainer, rather than an enduring musical force of creativity. I just don't think he will be regarded as he is now, and certainly not deserving of a stamp or a natl. day of mourning, as Al Sharpton is now advocating.

It's an awful lot of flash and fizzle and maybe everyone got a little too cooked, but I was never a fan, so..... and yes, I am a fan of Motown and such. To me, that Bad song was the turning point, where he lost my credibility and interest and just seemed ridiculous. He went from being a child singing beyond his years, to somebody beyond childhood years acting and singing in child-like fashion, and even supporting the contention with personal and ultimately scandalous behavior.

Nice thought there Weeks....but...He was what he was..a unique talent..
The moves and the shapes were old and done before he was born..
He brought Dance to a generation that never saw it before..
A generation brought up on MTV never saw dancing in all it's glory...

Freds dead..so is Gene...so maybe for that alone the late MJ has placed the notion of Dance into the heart of a generation...

Every little bit helps...
Slan,
D.

dubhlinn · Post by **dubhlinn** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:21 pm

Dale wrote:I'm not sure this has yet even matched the death coverage of Pamela Anderson or Anna Nicole Smith, whichever one died a couple of years ago.

Pamela...

Slan,
D.

emmline · Post by **emmline** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:44 pm

Dale wrote:I'm not sure this has yet even matched the death coverage of Pamela Anderson

not dead

or Anna Nicole Smith,

dead

whichever one died a couple of years ago.

Denny · Post by **Denny** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:44 pm

dubhlinn wrote:
Dale wrote:I'm not sure this has yet even matched the death coverage of Pamela Anderson or Anna Nicole Smith, whichever one died a couple of years ago.

Pamela...

Slan,
D.

snerk....naw, the other one

weedie · Post by **weedie** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:10 pm

I'm not 'completely' unmoved by his death.....I feel sorrow for his family.
I dont think you're a bad person either Simon..a very serious person,but not a bad one.
As for MJ himself ..his paedophilia negated any good things he ever did.At least in death,he won't have to deal with what his life had become...a grotesque and torturous existence.
As for the sick media coverage,one TV station here in OZ (Chanel 9) has had a lot of air time devoted to MJ and ALL of it has been positive/complimentary with no whiff whatsoever of the courtroom dramas,facelifts,weirdnes etc....and there's another two doco's planned for next week..
Now,I'm a suspicious type and after a bit of research,I found that Chanel 9 has large interests in CD/DVD sales.So under the guise of 'entertainment' ,we are really just getting an advertisement for Chanel 9's products..
Consider this when next time,you see a programme on the life and times of Michael Jackson.
Sick ? ....most surely...

s1m0n · Post by **s1m0n** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:02 pm

The Weekenders wrote:In 100 years, people will wonder why he was so famous. They won't have Boomer sensibility and sentiments.

Gen Xers like me are going to spend most of the rest of our lives being annoyed by the boomer death march.

~~

My second-last girlfriend went through grade school with Pam Anderson, albeit not with Pam's implants. Maybe I should post that to the 'brush with fame' thread.

MTGuru · Post by **MTGuru** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:46 pm

s1m0n wrote:Gen Xers like me are going to spend most of the rest of our lives being annoyed by the boomer death march.

That has to be one of the most callous things I've ever read on the Chiffboard. On behalf of my entire generation, I apologize if our deaths offend your sensibilities. Geez.

s1m0n · Post by **s1m0n** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:40 pm

MTGuru wrote:
s1m0n wrote:Gen Xers like me are going to spend most of the rest of our lives being annoyed by the boomer death march.
That has to be one of the most callous things I've ever read on the Chiffboard. On behalf of my entire generation, I apologize if our deaths offend your sensibilities.

You might be surprised how universal this sentiment is in the generation after yours, but you know almost nothing about us.

MTGuru · Post by **MTGuru** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:06 am

s1m0n wrote:You might be surprised how universal this sentiment is in the generation after yours, but you know almost nothing about us.

And I might not be. You have no idea what I know. And what I know is hardly the point.

The Weekenders · Post by **The Weekenders** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:19 am

I think X-ers are equally if not more responsible for making Thriller the deal that it was. Little MJ was a Boomer phenom, but Bad MJ is more transitional post-Boomer.

As for the assertion about what Boomers know about X-ers, it's an unprovable and gross generalization.

caedmon · Post by **caedmon** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:07 am

s1m0n wrote:..in the universe who is completely unmoved by the death of Michael Jackson? And if I am, does that make me a bad person?

Nah. He simply was not an important person in your life, so his death lacks much if any emotional punch to you. This is normal.

Joseph E. Smith · Post by **Joseph E. Smith** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:58 am

Charlene wrote:It was newsworthy on the day he died, and it will be worth a 30-second story when the autopsy results are in but enough already!

Funny, I had a similar thought when I began reading this thread.

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