Cane springiness test

rorybbellows · Post by **rorybbellows** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:50 pm

I think it was David Daye who came up with the dunking in water test for determining the hardness of cane.But after watching the Heart of the instrument DVD and in particular the importance of springiness of the cane that BK makes a point of ,I was trying to devise a test to determine springiness.
Do you think the method I have photographed below would be of any value as a test when making slips?

RORY

Patrick D'Arcy · Post by **Patrick D'Arcy** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:01 pm

Perfect..... this solves so many issues!

Steve Turner · Post by **Steve Turner** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:11 pm

Heads: You make me a reed
Tails: I make you a reed

Hans-Joerg · Post by **Hans-Joerg** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:42 pm

rorybbellows wrote:Do you think the method I have photographed

below would be of any value as a test when making slips?

I do - but why not take a standardized slip (measurements; weight),
fix it and clamp a weight onto it? Wasn´t this idea by Dave Daye, too?

BTW, I can´t help thinking that your elephant
might have inspired you a little

Hans-Joerg · Post by **Hans-Joerg** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:20 pm

Immoderators: Please remove my reply.

Joseph E. Smith · Post by **Joseph E. Smith** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:25 pm

Hans-Joerg wrote:Immoderators: Please remove my reply.

Seems harmless enough.

Rory, I enjoyed that.

I am not certain, however, that it can be an efficient and consistant means of judging "true" springiness in a slip of cane... to many variables to consider.

tomk · Post by **tomk** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:41 pm

I can tell just by looking at it that , " that one " would never do , but I have been watching the elephant for far too long and my judgement may be off .

rorybbellows · Post by **rorybbellows** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:03 pm

You might all think its funny but....but..but when I fiqure out how to finish this sentence you'll see.
By the way if you try this at home please wear some goggles as I have already gotten a black eye .

RORY

tomk · Post by **tomk** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:18 pm

then you need to put that down and use a tea bag on it for 20 min . lol .

pipewatcher · Post by **pipewatcher** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:38 am

what kind of coin is it? How many inches between the numbers? how high is the cane from the work surface? it's a nice idea but it wants some calibration...

tomk · Post by **tomk** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:59 am

the " mile high club " ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,lol .

Brazenkane · Post by **Brazenkane** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:05 pm

I think you need a bar that the coin needs to make it over. Include cushions for it to land on to avoid injury.

I'm w/D'arcy on this one!

rorybbellows · Post by **rorybbellows** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:53 pm

As we all know BK is a great reedmaker and he always stresses the importance of getting a feel for the cane,well thats alright if you have been making reeds as long as he has .But when your starting out you dont know what that feel is.
My thinking was that for the beginner ,like myself ,if you could quantify what that feel was it would make thing abit easier.
What is in the photo is just the basis of the idea ,I'm sure if it was developed futher it could be of some use.
As far as I can gather one of the secrets of successful reedmaking is consistensy, so an aid to consistant cane slip springiness would help and once you get good results with a particular springiness its easy to repeat it, but also you get to recognize the "feel" of a good slip.
Many expert reedmakers point out that measurements is not the way to go.

RORY

tomk · Post by **tomk** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:08 pm

I think you are on the right track , just keep watching the elephant ,

Joseph E. Smith · Post by **Joseph E. Smith** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:11 pm

rorybbellows wrote: Many expert reedmakers point out that measurements is not the way to go.

RORY

Making reeds by "feel" is certainly easier to do when you have made a lot reeds and your muscle memory is acute, but there still needs to be some measuring done. Granted, the measurements do not need to be highly precise, but they have to be in the ball park where pitch (for example) is concerned.

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