Bb Flute D'Amour
Bb Flute D'Amour
I am meaning a tapered bore flute with
XXX XXX = the Bb lower than middle C.
I am fully aware that in certain circles "flute d'amour" could mean
a C or a B flute as well as the Bb so please don't hijack the topic with pedantic diversions.
If you have one I would like to know the span from the lowest tone hole to the highest. I am trying work something out and I don't want to be ringing flute makers until I have settled my requirements.
Much appreciated.
XXX XXX = the Bb lower than middle C.
I am fully aware that in certain circles "flute d'amour" could mean
a C or a B flute as well as the Bb so please don't hijack the topic with pedantic diversions.
If you have one I would like to know the span from the lowest tone hole to the highest. I am trying work something out and I don't want to be ringing flute makers until I have settled my requirements.
Much appreciated.
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Re: Bb Flute D'Amour
Here are approximate measurements, as taken from a Casey Burns, conical bore Bb flute, as measured from center to center of the tone holes.talasiga wrote:I am meaning a tapered bore flute with
XXX XXX = the Bb lower than middle C...
...If you have one I would like to know the span from the lowest tone hole to the highest. I am trying work something out and I don't want to be ringing flute makers until I have settled my requirements.
Much appreciated.
From the uppermost tone hole to the lowermost tone hole, and to the nearest millimeter:
(L1)<-37mm->(L2)<-36mm->(L3)<-----93mm----->(R1)<-37mm->(R2)<-36mm->(R3)
Note: The L3 and R3 tone holes are offset.
BTW, talasiga, and just to mention it, a flute by another maker could have different measurements.
I have a drawing from the Bate Collection of a Stanesby Junior Flute D'Amour (c 1725). The distance from the #1 to the #6 tone hole is shown as 252 mm. The drawing notes say that it plays in B flat at A415 pitch. That would make it very close to an "A" flute at A440 pitch. So if you scaled this down to a B flat flute at A440 pitch, you would get a hole-to-hole dimension of 238 mm - very close to what Cork measured on his flute.
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Hi Tal...
Finally made it home to measure the old Hy. POTTER......260mm Wow !
All the more surprising since it was probably played in high pitch !
Edit: forgot they used a key on that hole...240 mm to the touch..
Finally made it home to measure the old Hy. POTTER......260mm Wow !
All the more surprising since it was probably played in high pitch !
Edit: forgot they used a key on that hole...240 mm to the touch..
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Talisiga, I realize that you requested information about conical bore flutes, but just for a point of reference, my cylindrical-bore low Bb flute measures 257 mm from the center of the first hole to the center of the 6th hole, as opposed to 240 mm and 238 mm for the conical-bore flutes.
The cylindrical-bore low Bb flute is a very large flute, but with a joint between the hands and offset holes for the ring fingers, it is playable for someone with fairly large hands. My hands are relatively small for a man, so I am not able to reach the big stretch for the RH 6th hole with conventional fingering. However, if I use my pinky for that hole, I don't have any problem playing the flute, although I wouldn't attempt anything very fast.
The cylindrical-bore low Bb flute is a very large flute, but with a joint between the hands and offset holes for the ring fingers, it is playable for someone with fairly large hands. My hands are relatively small for a man, so I am not able to reach the big stretch for the RH 6th hole with conventional fingering. However, if I use my pinky for that hole, I don't have any problem playing the flute, although I wouldn't attempt anything very fast.
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Re: Bb Flute D'Amour
Pssst! The total of the above measurements is 239 mm.Cork wrote:Here are approximate measurements, as taken from a Casey Burns, conical bore Bb flute, as measured from center to center of the tone holes.talasiga wrote:I am meaning a tapered bore flute with
XXX XXX = the Bb lower than middle C...
...If you have one I would like to know the span from the lowest tone hole to the highest. I am trying work something out and I don't want to be ringing flute makers until I have settled my requirements.
Much appreciated.
From the uppermost tone hole to the lowermost tone hole, and to the nearest millimeter:
(L1)<-37mm->(L2)<-36mm->(L3)<-----93mm----->(R1)<-37mm->(R2)<-36mm->(R3)
Note: The L3 and R3 tone holes are offset.
BTW, talasiga, and just to mention it, a flute by another maker could have different measurements.
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Re: Bb Flute D'Amour
talasiga wrote:... so please don't hijack the topic with pedantic diversions.
Thats why I started a topic about the TAPERED bore Bb flute.Doug_Tipple wrote:Talisiga
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The cylindrical-bore low Bb flute is a very large flute, but with a joint between the hands and offset holes for the ring fingers, it is playable for someone with fairly large hands. My hands are relatively small for a man, so I am not able to reach the big stretch for the RH 6th hole with conventional fingering. However, if I use my pinky for that hole, I don't have any problem playing the flute, although I wouldn't attempt anything very fast.
Talasiga.
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I plead guilty to a pedantic diversion. Dimpled bore, cylindrical bore, tapered bore, speckled bore, conical bore; this is so confusing. I would also like to have total control of a topic or of a situation, but several years as a high school teacher taught me that that was a mere fantasy and not really possible.talasiga wrote:Thats why I started a topic about the TAPERED bore Bb flute.Doug_Tipple wrote:Talisiga
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The cylindrical-bore low Bb flute is a very large flute, but with a joint between the hands and offset holes for the ring fingers, it is playable for someone with fairly large hands. My hands are relatively small for a man, so I am not able to reach the big stretch for the RH 6th hole with conventional fingering. However, if I use my pinky for that hole, I don't have any problem playing the flute, although I wouldn't attempt anything very fast.
Talasiga.