Medical Myths
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I personally believe it is a myth that high cholesterol causes health problems. It may be a statistical correlation, but it is not a cause. My grandmother died at the ripe old age 83 and her cholesterol was in the 700s.
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This is something I have also wondered about.sbfluter wrote:I personally believe it is a myth that high cholesterol causes health problems. It may be a statistical correlation, but it is not a cause. My grandmother died at the ripe old age 83 and her cholesterol was in the 700s.
One thing that is very true is that it is usually not that hard to upset nature's balance--but it's generally harder than hell (if possible at all) to restore that balance.
What is known is that there is a relationship between high cholesterol and high lipids in general and with cardiovascular diseases of the heart and circulatory system.
However, there is also a relationship between lying down and dying; however, the act of reclining does not cause death. Just because there is a relationship doesn't mean there is a causitive relationship.
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Re: Medical Myths
Sorry mate. Its not that simple.djm wrote:.....The nearest recommendation that could be found is that you should get the equivalent of six glasses of "fluids" per day, including coffee, tea, juices, ...........
The fluid balance EFFECT of 6 glasses of water or 6 glasses of fresh vegetable juice (unsalted) is not the same as 6 glasses of tea or coffee.
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For many years, I treated loads of kids with ADHD. I certainly believe the studies that have repeatedly shown that diet, including refined sugar, have no effect on ADHD symptoms. But, like most such studies, they're based on comparing experimental group averages to control group averages, washing out individual differences. It's possible, of course, that individual children respond to dietary triggers. I've seen a handful of fairly convincing cases. But, what would be interesting is to do a double blind study with some individual kids to see if expectations (of both the patient and the parents) are what's happening.fyffer wrote:I don't care what any study, doctor or pastor (sorry) says, but for some children (I have one of them), consuming "food" items containing too much processed sugars definitely makes children hyper. No one will convince me otherwise. They obviously haven't studied my son.pastorkeith wrote:ALL FALSE According to WEBMD and University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
(4) Feeding a child a lot of candy or food with a lot of sugar in it will make them hyperactive (Not that it is good for you for other reasons!)
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Sugar doesn't ever seem to show up as a measurable trigger.
However, there's growing published evidence that some (not all) food additives can trigger ADD type symptoms. A recent study in England got a lot of press for showing such a correlation. In that study, the children studied were similar to a broad cross section, and not selected for having had a history of ADD symptoms. In that group, very possibly, the majority of subjects would not have been sensitive at all, so the fact that the few who were sensitive changed the amount of observed ADD symptoms enough to show a statistically significant effect is rather striking, in my opinion. I believe I read that the researchers commented there were specific children in the study whose reactions to the food additives were not subtle at all, while most of the children were not noticeably affected. If a similar study were done with all children who had a history of ADD, I suspect the correlation might be quite a bit stronger.
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However, there's growing published evidence that some (not all) food additives can trigger ADD type symptoms. A recent study in England got a lot of press for showing such a correlation. In that study, the children studied were similar to a broad cross section, and not selected for having had a history of ADD symptoms. In that group, very possibly, the majority of subjects would not have been sensitive at all, so the fact that the few who were sensitive changed the amount of observed ADD symptoms enough to show a statistically significant effect is rather striking, in my opinion. I believe I read that the researchers commented there were specific children in the study whose reactions to the food additives were not subtle at all, while most of the children were not noticeably affected. If a similar study were done with all children who had a history of ADD, I suspect the correlation might be quite a bit stronger.
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I think the sugar=hyperness thing might be an example of the placebo effect. We expect that when a lot of sugar is consumed that we get hyper, so we do. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if eating a lot of sugar gave someone more engergy (for a short time) than if they had eaten nothing, but that doesn't necessarily equate to hyperness.
Now, I really wish the assumption that consuming caffine quickly wakes one up were universally true...
Now, I really wish the assumption that consuming caffine quickly wakes one up were universally true...
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Normally, if I am just a bit tired or bleary, hot coffee will start to perk me up.Now, I really wish the assumption that consuming caffine quickly wakes one up were universally true...
(I have a grinder and a French press and have learned to make a pretty decent brew. It's amazing how much better coffee can taste than what you get from a drip maker.)
However, if I am really tired, for instance if I've been awake for a whole day and night, then the heat from the hot coffee just seems to relax me and make me sleepier.
So it works a little, sometimes, but I really wouldn't recommend depending on it.
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Re: More myths
You guys are talking about two separate things. There's a big difference between a kid being all sugared up and bouncing off the walls and a kid with a true case of ADHD. The problem is in the diagnostic process that decided, especially in the '90s, that any kid who didn't pay attention in school or didn't go to bed on time must be ADHD. You are both right.Dale wrote:For many years, I treated loads of kids with ADHD. I certainly believe the studies that have repeatedly shown that diet, including refined sugar, have no effect on ADHD symptoms. But, like most such studies, they're based on comparing experimental group averages to control group averages, washing out individual differences. It's possible, of course, that individual children respond to dietary triggers. I've seen a handful of fairly convincing cases. But, what would be interesting is to do a double blind study with some individual kids to see if expectations (of both the patient and the parents) are what's happening.fyffer wrote:I don't care what any study, doctor or pastor (sorry) says, but for some children (I have one of them), consuming "food" items containing too much processed sugars definitely makes children hyper. No one will convince me otherwise. They obviously haven't studied my son.pastorkeith wrote:ALL FALSE According to WEBMD and University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
(4) Feeding a child a lot of candy or food with a lot of sugar in it will make them hyperactive (Not that it is good for you for other reasons!)
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