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Wow!

Well, there was another thread about oxymorons.

How's this one: Music Business
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Wanderer wrote:This guy is freaking amazing. It makes me weep for our own version of this show.
Yes, it appears Britain Has Talent, and America Has Strippers Who Pander to Judges.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn3-O17f4tg
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fearfaoin wrote:
Wanderer wrote:This guy is freaking amazing. It makes me weep for our own version of this show.
Yes, it appears Britain Has Talent, and America Has Strippers Who Pander to Judges.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn3-O17f4tg
Yeah, that's exactly the difference I was referring to. Heh
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This looks as good a place as any to add this one:

A large woman wearing a sleeveless sun dress walked into a bar in Dublin.
She raised her right arm, revealing a huge, hairy armpit, as she pointed to
all the people sitting at the bar and asked, "What man here will buy a lady
a drink?"

The bar went silent as the patrons tried to ignore her, but down at the end
of the bar, an owl-eyed little drunk slammed his hand down on the counter and
bellowed "Give the ballerina a drink!"

The bartender poured the drink and the woman chugged it down. She turned to
the patrons and again pointed around at all of them, revealing the same
hairy armpit, and asked "What man here will buy a lady a drink?"

Once again, the same little drunk slapped his money down on the bar and
said, "Give the ballerina another drink!"

The bartender approached the little drunk and said "Lookit, Murphy, it's your
business if you want to buy the lady a drink, but why do you keep calling her
a ballerina?"

The drunk replied, "Any woman who can lift her leg that high has got to be
a ballerina!"
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mukade wrote:I saw the clips on Youtube.

Programmes like this have no respect for the people taking part or the audience.

Reality TV lacks one essential element - dignity.

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It lacks two... dignity, as you said, and the other, particularly ironic in its absence, is reality.... I guess that puts it in the oxymoron category too.
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Redwolf wrote:
Cynth wrote:I've never seen the American or British version of the show, but this reminded me of that great fantasy "They all laughed when I sat down at the piano...." and then you wow everyone in sight. I wonder if the exposure on this show will help him have a career in music---I'm not sure what he needs to do that---more training, guidance---but even if you aren't a big opera star I think there are opportunities to sing with orchestras or other groups although I don't know how full time it would be. It would be interesting to know his background.
It's almost impossible to get a job that will pay the bills in the music business...at least here in the States (unless you're in "popular" music, that is...and even then, it's difficult). Our choir includes two brilliant opera singers and a talented conductor, all of whom have to have a different, full-time job to pay the bills. The opera singers have no trouble getting roles, but the money is pathetic, especially for all the hours they put in.

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Right you are. In the Art or Music industries, it is almost literally a crap-shoot as to whether you will get anywhere or not, and it has almost nothing to do with genuine talent or uniquenss, it has everything to do with what the power brokers think they can sell.
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annimcu wrote:it has everything to do with what the power brokers think they can sell
Easy as it is to vilify business interests, the blame lays with those who pay their money for entertainment. While we may not be bombarded with opera singing by the advertising industry, you would be hard pressed to find anyone who didn't have at least a fuzzy notion of what opera sounds like, and those who like it can easily pursue and purchase recordings of the types of music the like, or look up and attend live performances near to them.

Let's face it, there just isn't a big enough market for some types of music than others (this on an ITM board- how obscure is that?).

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djm wrote:
annimcu wrote:it has everything to do with what the power brokers think they can sell
Easy as it is to vilify business interests, the blame lays with those who pay their money for entertainment. While we may not be bombarded with opera singing by the advertising industry, you would be hard pressed to find anyone who didn't have at least a fuzzy notion of what opera sounds like, and those who like it can easily pursue and purchase recordings of the types of music the like, or look up and attend live performances near to them.

Let's face it, there just isn't a big enough market for some types of music than others (this on an ITM board- how obscure is that?).

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I'm not talking about the type of music, necessarily, but the *industry* that decides who will be marketed (or is marketable) and who will not, is not actually based on talent, or ability to play or sing (or draw or paint), but on whether the brokers (agents, agencies), think they can make money on them... that's why we get such things as 'bands' that don't play actual instruments, singers who actually lip synch, pre-teens marketed as sexual objects, and old, overweight, far from talented strippers rather than folks with real dancing, singing, creative ability, etc.
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Annie, I agree with you totally. I would much rather see good looking strippers who can dance well. :D

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absolutely...if you're gonna be crass ya might as well be ... nevermind :wink:
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Hey, if that flabby mid 60's guy can actually dance the dance, I'm all for it! :lol: What they give us though, is most clearly trash, and that's not a jugementalism. :o
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proud to be an American?
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Denny wrote:proud to be an American?
Not always. :cry: :really:
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good god...that made me teary...amazing..
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