Rudall & Rose 3415 F/S

RudallRose · Post by **RudallRose** » Mon May 28, 2007 7:45 pm

with due respect to Michael, I would never suggest that a good original Rudall is in the same league as a Grinter.
Quite the opposite:
A good Grinter is in the league of a good original Rudall, which invented the League.

dm

jim stone · Post by **jim stone** » Mon May 28, 2007 7:55 pm

Well said. It follows that they are in the same league.

A Rod Cameron copy of Chris N's Rudall costs 5700 dollars,
by the way--if the price hasn't gone up.

tooteyflutey · Post by **tooteyflutey** » Tue May 29, 2007 7:38 am

Hello everyone.
I have mentioned to a few people who PMed me, that they can phone to hear the flute, and talk more. Id be delighted to do that. Yes Im asking for in the region of £3000. In the region.
I dont quite understand the earlier breakdown of repair costs that a member made. If you can get repairs etc.. done for that, then please pass on where!!! wow!

And, yes I am selling to fund the end of a recording. Believe me, If I didnt need to do this, there is no way that I would be going through this to sell this beautifull, old, amazing instrument. I thought when I bought this flute, that it would be one Id pass down through the family.
If anyone wants to talk on the phone about the flute, please PM. Otherwise, good luck and see you along the way.
Cheers.

Whistlin'Dixie · Post by **Whistlin'Dixie** » Tue May 29, 2007 8:08 am

tooteyflutey wrote:
And, yes I am selling to fund the end of a recording. Believe me, If I didnt need to do this, there is no way that I would be going through this to sell this beautifull, old, amazing instrument. I thought when I bought this flute, that it would be one Id pass down through the family.
If anyone wants to talk on the phone about the flute, please PM. Otherwise, good luck and see you along the way.
Cheers.

I find this rather heartbreaking, actually...

M

eilam · Post by **eilam** » Tue May 29, 2007 9:38 am

eilam · Post by **eilam** » Tue May 29, 2007 9:38 am

this kind of discussions always bother me.
if you want an original R&R and have the money, buy it, if you want one and don't have the money...save some.
who's to say if it's worth it or not?
i got one on ebay maybe 5-7 years ago, paid maybe around $5000, had Noy make a new head.......probably put $1700 more into it...............it's a very unique R&R.
it's my best flute, really has some quality that none of my other flutes have.
most of the time i play my other flutes, why? i'm not sure, but each time i play my R&R i can't believe how great it is, because i'm so used and pleased with other flutes that i have, i don't expect it to play nicer.
today, i could never afford it, i too, hope to one day pass it on to my kids.
i can imagine how hard it would be to come to a place where you need to sell an instrument that you like.
i sold a few, and still miss them, years down the road.
jim, just so you know - my R&R plays better then any other flute i have played, and i did play Grinters and others.
does it worth the money? yes if you have it.

jim stone · Post by **jim stone** » Tue May 29, 2007 10:11 am

I hope people won't be bothered by these questions.
Trying to learn more about something of
considerable interest to me, certainly not questioning the
seller or the price. I started by saying the price
is reasonable. We have managed to keep the
add for this yummy flute (as I called it earlier)
at the top of the board for some time.

Thanks also for the info. I have used it to
try to persuade the wife that this purchase would
not only be a good investment, but would end
an ancient discrimination against victims
of anti-Rudall-purchasing prejudice. A brisk left
hook from my schnubie cleared my senses.
When the swelling goes down, I may try again.

Another question, if I may:
how high into the third octave were the old Rudalls
meant to play?

Cathy Wilde · Post by **Cathy Wilde** » Tue May 29, 2007 10:41 am

God, it's lovely. Wouldn't it have been a thrill to play Beethoven's 9th on that?

Good luck, TF, and I'm so very sorry about the circumstances.

rama · Post by **rama** » Tue May 29, 2007 11:18 am

jim stone wrote:Thanks also for the info. I have used it to
try to persuade the wife that this purchase would
not only be a good investment, but would end
an ancient discrimination against victims
of anti-Rudall-purchasing prejudice. A brisk left
hook from my schnubie cleared my senses.
When the swelling goes down, I may try again.

Another question, if I may:
how high into the third octave were the old Rudalls
meant to play?

we're proud of ye jim - sometimes you have to take a stand in life, even take a black eye or fat lip from the missus. (maybe wear a mouthguard next time you mention rudall and rose to her... wouldn't want to lose the teeth now.)

jim stone · Post by **jim stone** » Tue May 29, 2007 1:25 pm

Ma femme boxes, you may recall. I always wear a
mouthguard except when I play flute. Also I bob,
I weave, I do rope-a-dope. If I weren't too old
I would be one of the great defensive middle weights.
Jeez I'm hard to hit!

Another question, if I may:
how high into the third octave were the old Rudalls
meant to play?

Anybody know? How high do these old suckers go?
Obviously they weren't 'session instruments,'
concentrating so much on the bottom two octaves.
Higher than A?

kkrell · Post by **kkrell** » Tue May 29, 2007 2:13 pm

Whistlin'Dixie wrote:
tooteyflutey wrote:
And, yes I am selling to fund the end of a recording. Believe me, If I didnt need to do this, there is no way that I would be going through this to sell this beautifull, old, amazing instrument. I thought when I bought this flute, that it would be one Id pass down through the family.
If anyone wants to talk on the phone about the flute, please PM. Otherwise, good luck and see you along the way.
Cheers.
I find this rather heartbreaking, actually...

M

Well, we could always start a collection to pay for the CD project, and help him keep his flute.

Kevin Krell

Aanvil · Post by **Aanvil** » Tue May 29, 2007 2:58 pm

I rather you all start a collections and help ME buy it.

I'm also being help prisoner in a fortune cookie factory.

Cough up the dough they told me.

I told them I aint et' any yet!

tooteyflutey · Post by **tooteyflutey** » Wed May 30, 2007 4:17 am

No collection, thankyou all the same!! I couldnt believe my eyes when I saw that! Very kind idea but seriously, thanks but no thanks. cheers.

tooteyflutey · Post by **tooteyflutey** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:20 am

Hello one and all!
As yet, this flute is still unsold! Ive not been trying all that hard to find a buyer to be honest -- but will be putting it on ebay shortly.
If anyone is still interested in buying this instrument, without going through ebay, please PM me.
Asking price is £3000 ono. Serious enquiries only please.
Thanks again everyone.

mcdafydd · Post by **mcdafydd** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:09 am

jim stone wrote: Another question, if I may:
how high into the third octave were the old Rudalls
meant to play?

Anybody know? How high do these old suckers go?
Obviously they weren't 'session instruments,'
concentrating so much on the bottom two octaves.
Higher than A?

Hey Jim, one of the ole' standards of flute history, as far as websites are concerned, has some info for you:

http://www.oldflutes.com/19C-play.htm#range