Prehistoric 'Hobbit' Was Definitely New Species

Denny · Post by **Denny** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:45 pm

Jan. 29, 2007 — On the remote island of Flores, in what is now Indonesia, scientists in 2003 made a remarkable discovery — the remains of a pre-human being, only about three feet tall, who lived and thrived there until about 12,000 years ago.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story? ... 747&page=1

djm · Post by **djm** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:10 pm

I was curious at first why this story was coming up again. After all, its over a year old. But once I read \the article I clued in that this is just the next chapter in a long fight to get hobbits recognized.

Tolkein's side is currently ahead.

djm

Denny · Post by **Denny** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:11 pm

yup...tests results are back...it's a hobbit!

Tyler · Post by **Tyler** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:09 am

Y'know, they thought I was a new species when they discovered me too...then I dissapointed everyone and grew up to be just another man of Numenor...

Coffee · Post by **Coffee** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:15 am

Gondor has no fossil. Gondor needs no fossil.

Joseph E. Smith · Post by **Joseph E. Smith** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:42 am

Cofaidh wrote:Gondor has no fossil. Gondor needs no fossil.

Tyler · Post by **Tyler** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:56 am

Joseph E. Smith wrote:
Cofaidh wrote:Gondor has no fossil. Gondor needs no fossil.

Yeah, try not to take that personally, Joe...

jus' kiddin'

djm · Post by **djm** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:57 am

Its amazing what you can find under a rock these days.

djm

jbarter · Post by **jbarter** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:02 am

Oi, you lot. Leave my ancesters alone.

The Weekenders · Post by **The Weekenders** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:00 am

I'm still waitin' for somebody to find skeletons of the Nephilim. Sometimes, tho, I wonder if they (the reference and legend) are not just ancestral memories of Neanderthals, made to fit into a theology.

The fact that pygmies still exist in Africa didn't seem to work into the discussion. I must be missing something here...

jsluder · Post by **jsluder** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:03 am

jbarter wrote:Oi, you lot. Leave my ancesters alone.

Peck!

Lexxicos · Post by **Lexxicos** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:56 pm

The Weekenders wrote:I'm still waitin' for somebody to find skeletons of the Nephilim. Sometimes, tho, I wonder if they (the reference and legend) are not just ancestral memories of Neanderthals, made to fit into a theology.

The Neanderthals were not humans (in the Homo Sapiens sense), but rather another species that became extinct in Europe around 24000 years ago. They aren't really our ancestors, we didn't evolve from them. We in fact had already evolved when they existed.

Post by **Nanohedron** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:00 pm

Lexxicos wrote:
The Weekenders wrote:I'm still waitin' for somebody to find skeletons of the Nephilim. Sometimes, tho, I wonder if they (the reference and legend) are not just ancestral memories of Neanderthals, made to fit into a theology.
The Neanderthals were not humans (in the Homo Sapiens sense), but rather another species that became extinct in Europe around 24000 years ago. They aren't really our ancestors, we didn't evolve from them. We in fact had already evolved when they existed.

I think Weeks meant H. sapiens' ancestral memory of their neighbors.

Just a guess.

missy · Post by **missy** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:03 pm

Lexxicos wrote:
The Neanderthals were not humans (in the Homo Sapiens sense), but rather another species that became extinct in Europe around 24000 years ago. They aren't really our ancestors, we didn't evolve from them. We in fact had already evolved when they existed.

Not up on "current" theories - but back when I took classes, it was acceptable to classify "us" as Homo sapien sapien, and the others as Homo sapien neanderthal. This was a "nod" to the possibility that the two could have interbred - i.e. they are subspecies of the same species.

That was 20 years ago, so current thinking may be totally different........

The Weekenders · Post by **The Weekenders** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:18 pm

Nanohedron wrote:
Lexxicos wrote:
The Weekenders wrote:I'm still waitin' for somebody to find skeletons of the Nephilim. Sometimes, tho, I wonder if they (the reference and legend) are not just ancestral memories of Neanderthals, made to fit into a theology.
The Neanderthals were not humans (in the Homo Sapiens sense), but rather another species that became extinct in Europe around 24000 years ago. They aren't really our ancestors, we didn't evolve from them. We in fact had already evolved when they existed.
I think Weeks meant H. sapiens' ancestral memory of their neighbors.

Just a guess.

Rigth-o. I heard the same theory about "trolls" in fairy tales, being same type o' memories.