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Got this info:
We have two prototypes. The first is currently with Cillian Vallely given
that he is carrying out the final “test drive”; and the second prototype is
the one we are working on here.
Mr Vallely will be returning the vPipes-Uilleann prototype at the William
Kennedy Piping Festival (Armagh) in November with his “report and
conclusions” so to speak
We are receiving tremendous reviews from people who have tried it so far
such as Cillian Vallely, Fred Morrison, Diarmaid Moynihan, Anxo Lorenzo
amongst others,(even Paddy Moloney thought it was marvellous when he tried
it briefly just before a concert a few weeks ago).
An important part of the sound quality comes from the fantastic sound
samples that we were lucky enough to get Cillian Vallely to record for us at
Trevor Hutchinson’s studio in Ireland. Incidentally, Cillian has recorded
both his priceless Rowsome and Froment flat and concert sets for our
Uilleann sound samples, and other pipes' sound samples are in the "pipeline"
such as GHB, Gaitas, Whistles etc.
Although all the R+D has been finalised some time ago, there are many
production processes that are out of our strict control and which we are
currently negotiating. It is for this reason that we are unable to give
exact "available by" date although we expect that the first units will be
available in the not too distant future. The sooner the better for all
concerned!
The special limited launch price is still at 980 Euros (plus local taxes and
deliveries - that obviously vary from country to country).
We have two prototypes. The first is currently with Cillian Vallely given
that he is carrying out the final “test drive”; and the second prototype is
the one we are working on here.
Mr Vallely will be returning the vPipes-Uilleann prototype at the William
Kennedy Piping Festival (Armagh) in November with his “report and
conclusions” so to speak
We are receiving tremendous reviews from people who have tried it so far
such as Cillian Vallely, Fred Morrison, Diarmaid Moynihan, Anxo Lorenzo
amongst others,(even Paddy Moloney thought it was marvellous when he tried
it briefly just before a concert a few weeks ago).
An important part of the sound quality comes from the fantastic sound
samples that we were lucky enough to get Cillian Vallely to record for us at
Trevor Hutchinson’s studio in Ireland. Incidentally, Cillian has recorded
both his priceless Rowsome and Froment flat and concert sets for our
Uilleann sound samples, and other pipes' sound samples are in the "pipeline"
such as GHB, Gaitas, Whistles etc.
Although all the R+D has been finalised some time ago, there are many
production processes that are out of our strict control and which we are
currently negotiating. It is for this reason that we are unable to give
exact "available by" date although we expect that the first units will be
available in the not too distant future. The sooner the better for all
concerned!
The special limited launch price is still at 980 Euros (plus local taxes and
deliveries - that obviously vary from country to country).
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Easy there, I'm an x-keyboard player. Just for the record I spent a lot of time trying to acquire a good uilleann pipe sound for keyboards.
Just for reference the closest I came was to buy one of these things.
http://www.vintagesynth.com/index2.html - (Do a search for roland 2080)
and then to purchase this.
http://www.roland.com/products/en/SR-JV80-16/index.html
I'm done with all this, having the real thing is so much more satisfying.
Just for reference the closest I came was to buy one of these things.
http://www.vintagesynth.com/index2.html - (Do a search for roland 2080)
and then to purchase this.
http://www.roland.com/products/en/SR-JV80-16/index.html
I'm done with all this, having the real thing is so much more satisfying.
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Keyboard players have been playing midi sax patches and midi trumpet patches for many years. There have even been midi GHB patches for a long time. All of these are recorded right off real instruments. The trouble is that a keyboardist cannot duplicate the physical dynamics of a real instrument on a per note basis. This means that anyone can tell within a few notes that they are listening to a synth patch.chanterdan wrote:i would hate to think that pipers, and musicians would be tempted to record music with it
Does this have any effect on listener preference? No. They couldn't give a crap. That's not what they bought the recording for. I don't know any keyboardist who has tried to sell a recording of a solo wind instrument played on a keyboard. The sound is just too hokey, with the same programmed dynamic coming through on every note. It just doesn't work.
I suspect that any keyboardist who uses one of these patches in a recording just used it because it was there. Any recording artist who really wants the sound of UPs (or trumpets, or trombones , or saxes, etc.) will still call in the real thing as needed.
That brings up the other aspect of these vPipe beasties: the physical interface. This is designed to allow a performer to imitate the real instrument in such a way that they can now include at least some of the dynamics per note as on the real thing. Only time will tell how successful they have been at accomplishing this. That, and the cost, will be the big deciding factors.
To my limited way of thinking, anyone who just plays the chanter, and then swamps it in reverb, and then buries it behind a load of synths and drum machines, is not reaching the same audience I would care to play to anyways. There's a market for that New Age drivel. Its just not a market I would care to pursue.
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Is this turning into a Spillane thread?djm wrote:To my limited way of thinking, anyone who just plays the chanter, and then swamps it in reverb, and then buries it behind a load of synths and drum machines, is not reaching the same audience I would care to play to anyways. There's a market for that New Age drivel. Its just not a market I would care to pursue.
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Keep in mind velocity mapping on the keyboard. What that means that when you hit the key harder or softer on a keyboard, it doesn't just play the note loader or quieter, it can also play from a different sample of the same note. All good sample sets will do this. For example, I have several samples sets of cellos and pianos that have up to five velocity samples per note. Add modifiers and you can create very expressive sounds.
Does this come close to replacing the original instrument, of course not. But just thought I should point that out.
In any case, I love the idea of vPipes - they'd be great for practising tunes late at night. If the price were closer to $500 US I'd be tempted.
Perhaps this reveals a market for super-quiet reeds.
Does this come close to replacing the original instrument, of course not. But just thought I should point that out.
In any case, I love the idea of vPipes - they'd be great for practising tunes late at night. If the price were closer to $500 US I'd be tempted.
Perhaps this reveals a market for super-quiet reeds.
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Nah, just get yerself a wide-bore concert chanter, already. Play that around her and she'll warm to your B set real quick.misterpatrick wrote:Yeah, I have a B set.
My wife and I apparently have different notions about constitutes "quiet". Then again, we live in a big 'ol loft so not a lot of places I can go hide and play.
I think a balsawood reed might be the trick.
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Take up the trumpet.... that'll sort her our right quick
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