Weston wooden Soprano D whistle review

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Weston wooden Soprano D whistle review

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Review housed at http://www.tinwhistler.com/reviews.asp

Weston Whistle in Cherry Wood
(Review written May 2006)

Preface
Dale Wisely of <a href="http://www.chiffandfipple.com">Chiff and Fipple</a> recently sent me a Weston whistle to review that he hadn't been able to find time for. There was a Weston wooden whistle tour on the Gaelic Crossings web board a while back, but I was too busy to get in on it at the time. I'm glad that the opportunity to review one of these whistles has fallen into my lap!

At a Glance
Whistle Reviewed: Weston Whistle in Cherry Wood
Models Available: C&D whistles in copper, chrome, and wood.
Construction: Wood with Wooden Fipple plug
Price at time of review: £50.00 (add £15.00 for a presentation box if desired)
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<a href="http://www.westonwhistles.co.uk/">Weston Whistles</a>
How Acquired: Product sample, via Dale Wisely

Appearance/Construction
I think the Weston whistle kind of looks like a Syn whistle, probably due to the brass pins holding everything together. It's worth noting that the pins on the Weston are pretty small and understated. Overall, the whistle is well executed, clean and well finished, and shows good attention to detail. The cherry wood is really nice looking with an nice grain pattern. This whistle is non-tunable, and Simon tells me he tries to avoid making tunable whistles, but I get the impression he will if you really want one--he did send me a pic of one in C that looked every bit as well-executed as this one.
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Here's the full whistle. You can see the nice creamy tan color of the cherry wood wood. At this distance, it's a little hard to see the grain pattern, but it becomes more apparent on closer inspection

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The head of the whistle. There's a thin bit of metal here between the head and the body, and the head is held together by a couple of brass pins. I think this is the only metal in the entire whistle. A tuning slide would, of course, have some metal as well.

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Another angle on the head. Here, you can get a better look at the pins, and the fipple angle. The Weston is a little less stubby than many high-end whistles, and will probably need much less adjustment when moving from low-end whistles like Generations. Contrast this to Susatos and Abells, which have extremely stubby mouthpieces, and generally take some getting used to.

Unlike most whistles I've played, the fipple juts out just a bit right where the fipple forms the "floor" part of the windway, giving this whistle a bit of an "underbite" feel. I don't think the fipple's out of alignment, because it's perfectly flush everywhere else. It's only a very slight amount, probably not even 1/16 of an inch. It doesn't bother me, but I thought I'd mention it since it was a unique feature.

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The last three holes of the whistle. They almost have a "wood burned" look, which I assume is a consequence of Simon's sanding process, as that same look is evident on the end of the whistle.

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The end of the whistle, showing the very slight flair. The more I play whistles, the more I like this feature in them. I have this (irrational, I'm sure) feeling that the slightly flared end protects against cracking better than banded metal.

Sound Clip:
Hag with the Purse

Volume: Slightly above average. The whistle is perhaps not quite as loud as a Susato, but it's definitely louder than your standard inexpensive whistle.

Responsiveness: Quick. I didn't have any problems playing this whistle up to speed.

Tuning: In tune along it's range. The first octave (especially the D) requires less breath than you'd expect..it's easy to blow sharp. here's a big gap between first and second octave on the breath, and you have to push the top B to get it into tune.But it's not as much as a fight up there as some whistles I've played, After a while, I got used to it.

C-natural: This was the only negative I found in the entire whistle. OXXOOO and OXXXOX both produce a sharp C-natural, and OXXXXXO produces one that's flat. I couldn't find a cross-fingering that produced an in-tune c-natural, so this whistle will require half-holing. I probably wouldn't even bother with half-holing on fast tunes, but the fingerings are 10-20 cents off, so I would definitely have to on slow tunes where the dissonance would be clear.

Hole size and placement: The holes are well rounded, evenly spaced, and a bit on the smallish side, making them easy to cover, but not as easy to half-hole.

Air volume requirements: A little higher than my inexpensive whistles. I do find myself taking breaths more often on this whistle, but not to the extreme. Perhaps a couple notes earlier than I normally would.

Air pressure requirements: Low in the first octave, and higher in the second octave. You really should be comfortable supporting a whistle with your diaphragm and pushing a bit (like with Overton whistles) to get the most out of the second octave.

Clogging: The whistle never clogged up on me, though after extended playing it did lose a little responsiveness due to moisture. I probably wouldn't use Duponol on this whistle unless it was my primary instrument.

Wind Resistance: Incredible! I played this whistle a couple weeks ago when we had the big thunderstorms and tornado warnings. The wind outside was strongly gusty and unpredictable. I think I only lost one note to the wind while playing tunes in those challenging circumstances.

Summary
Good whistle! Especially the amazing outdoor playability. Usually, when the wind is bad enough, the Susato is my fallback choice, but I could easily see myself playing on of these if I didn't want to play a plastic whistle. At approximately $95.00 US, it's a little less expensive than a Burke or a Silkstone, and I think it sits in that niche rather nicely. With a Weston, you get a little more whistle than you might expect for the price. I would have no problem performing solo at renaissance festivals and such with this whistle, though I'd likely be a bit shy abou the C-natural until I got used to half-holing it.
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My Weston C has a nice oxxxox C-natural.
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Post by Mitch »

My Weston has Cnat nicely at OXXXOO.

I'm sure Simon can set this according to the player's preference.
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Post by IDAwHOa »

My Sapele Weston, which my wife would kill me if I ever got rid of (unlike my O'Riordan set) is quite a bit darker and the grain quite a bit more pronounced than this one.

It does not have ANY metal in it. The metal ring and pins were added after mine was made. It also lacks the flare at the bell. The fipple plug does not protrude either, at least not more than any manufacturing tolerance could account for.

My Cnat tuning is OXXOOX as confirmed by our piano (no AAA'a for our tuner :evil: )and my wife's ear but if I remember correctly the piano is just a little bit sharp so OXXOXO may be just a tad closer.
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In appearance it reminds me of a traditional tabor pipe. That would seem appropriate for those into historical reenactments and the like, as it seems to be a very reasonable shepherd's pipe type thing.
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Your review is swell.
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Wanderer, Thank you for another very informative and helpful review. I appreciate your sharing your insights about the whistles that pass through your hands. Very nice playing as well. Would love to see a review of a Sindt, Reyburn low D or G and Hoover brass (d or G).
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CelloDog wrote:Wanderer, Thank you for another very informative and helpful review. I appreciate your sharing your insights about the whistles that pass through your hands. Very nice playing as well. Would love to see a review of a Sindt, Reyburn low D or G and Hoover brass (d or G).
Thanks, Doug

Thanks for the kind words Doug.

I can only review the whistles I end up with in my hands...so far, nobody's released their white-knuckled grip on their Sindt ;)
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Wanderer, if you and Dale did not give us these excellent reviews, we would be almost totally lost on what to order. Thanks!
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Post by Jetboy »

Taking Idawhoa's point here, .....

This whistle had been so long with Dale that I had completely forgotten which one he had.!

This test whistle is in actual fact made from Cherry Wood, not Sapele as I told Wanderer.:oops: Cherry gives a much smoother finish with a creamy, honey colour. Sapele has a coarser grain and comes in various shades, Idawhoa's is a dark reddish brown others I have are paler ranging through to a golden colour.

I have just finished a 'C' whistle in Hawthorn wood. Not a common choice but has turned out to a beautiful creamy white colour, not unlike a Susato polymer. Very little grain pattern and hard as nails. Keep an eye on Mitch's website at www.ozwhistles.au where pictures and a clip should be up soon

Sorry for the mistake, and thanks to Wanderer for a positive review! Remember, every whistle made is different, volume, air requirement, hole size and the like changes slightly with every one. I am not set up for mass production so there will always be variations in configuration. One significant change in the design to the test whistle is the inclusion of a brass sleeve in the bottom 1" or so of the inner bore. This in conjunction with the slight flare (largely aesthetic by the way) serves to reinforce the wood at this point and help to prevent deterioration from the build up of condensation (oh all right, spit!) at the bottom. It looks nice too!
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Walden wrote:In appearance it reminds me of a traditional tabor pipe. That would seem appropriate for those into historical reenactments and the like, as it seems to be a very reasonable shepherd's pipe type thing.
Curiously, a friend of mine who is into re-enactment stuff, Sealed Knot and all that, said a very similar thing. I am currently researching Tabor Pipes, with a view to producing one as a prototype to tap into this specialist area. If anyone over the Pond is interested in this historical stuff, keep in touch.
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