Coming out of the closet - now have an M&E

Jayhawk · Post by **Jayhawk** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:10 pm

I just thought I'd share that I recently traded all my flutes (yep, both of them) for the 6 key M&E R&R model that Doc had for sale over at the Irish Flute Store.

Now before Gary starts dusting off his soap box, this is more of a "gloat" like Dana posted than a review.

I really like this flute - it combines the bigger embouchure like my sweet had, with the easy care of a polymer flute (I am simply too lazy and paranoid about wood), and has two more keys than I had before. For me, the darn thing is ideal.

Someone on this board recently described an M&E as a "right ugly blighter, but they play wonderfully" - or something close to that, and that describes my flute to a "T". Big clunky keys (but well placed and they work well), rough inner tone holes (but nicely cut embouchure and bore), and it sounds simply great.

I'm think I'm going to name it Bubba...

Eric

Wormdiet · Post by **Wormdiet** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:15 pm

An excellent name. Mine is "polly" for obvious reasons.

How do the weight and ergonomics compare to your other flutes?

Denny · Post by **Denny** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:16 pm

Well given that you are "comming out of the closet" I'd suppose calling your flute "Bubba" would be in keeping...

Ya do know, Eric, that Dale prefers to keep this kinda thing a bit on the quiet side. (TMI)

congrats!

Loren · Post by **Loren** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:51 pm

"Bubba", that cracks me up dude

Glad to hear you found a flute that does what you need, uh, so to speak.

Loren

Jayhawk · Post by **Jayhawk** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:32 pm

How do the weight and ergonomics compare to your other flutes?

Well, no scientific measurement here since I don't have either flute anymore, but it's heavier than any other wood/polymer flute I've owned (Seerys are just lighter than M&Es - likely the shorter partial slide, and the Sweet didn't have a slide). I did have an old 8 key with a silver wrapped headjoint that probably was similar in weight. Still, it's not so heavy it bothers me. I think James once weighed a keyless and ringless M&E R&R against his Seery, and his keyed original M&E - I'd guess my M&E weighs about what James' keyed one does. I've now played it in two sessions, for 2+ hours time, and I didn't have a problem with the weight (the thought it was heavy never really crossed my mind).

Ergonomically, the keys are great - easy for me to reach - but a lot of that depends on your grip. My session mate claimed the short F was poorly placed, and for his piperish right hand grip it was (he plays a 5 key Williams - no short F), but for me it's fine. I also like the split middle section which allows for rotation if I so desire (although I'm playing with them aligned so this is more of a theoretical "like").

Eric

Henke · Post by **Henke** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:17 pm

Of course, I already knew about this since I've apperantly gained some sort of M&E-Guru status recently

But once again, I'd like to welcome Eric into the wonderful world of rough and chubby flutes.

One day, I may come out of the closet as well and buy one of those fancy flutes that look like a piece of art. Jon C's flute looked really good, and it played like a dream as well. It spoke to me in a way that few other flutes have. I'll probably buy one of those when he has his key design sorted out. But right now, the M&E is all I really need.

michael_coleman · Post by **michael_coleman** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:36 pm

Henke wrote:Of course, I already knew about this since I've apperantly gained some sort of M&E-Guru status recently

But once again, I'd like to welcome Eric into the wonderful world of rough and chubby flutes.

One day, I may come out of the closet as well and buy one of those fancy flutes that look like a piece of art. Jon C's flute looked really good, and it played like a dream as well. It spoke to me in a way that few other flutes have. I'll probably buy one of those when he has his key design sorted out. But right now, the M&E is all I really need.

I enjoy going back and forth between the M&E and Jon's flute, especially since they are comparable flutes.

greenspiderweb · Post by **greenspiderweb** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:31 pm

Henke wrote: But once again, I'd like to welcome Eric into the wonderful world of rough and chubby flutes.

Good call M&E Guru Henke! Excellent description. Bubba works!

I just can't get over Eric not having a Seery anymore! Eric-having any Seery withdrawal symptoms?

We all need a change now and then I guess-I just did the opposite. At first I thought I would sell my Seery too, but since I have a Burns Rudall now, the Seery seemed a nice contrast to it, so I ended up selling my M&E instead.

I take solace in the fact that sometime when I have some more cash, I'll probably pick up another M&E, probably the Rudall model next time around, or maybe a JonC, or a Ward-who knows? I do know that the M&E was a heck of a flute!

Jayhawk · Post by **Jayhawk** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:28 am

Barry - I am having a bit of a hard time adjusting to not having a Seery. I still think the Seery is a very good flute, and it's definitely a more polished/finished flute. But for quality of sound, I can't say either is better (the Seery or M&E) - I still, not surprisingly, sound more like myself playing than anything else.

The keys though, all 6 of them, are helping me overcome any Seery-deficiency issues...you can't beat Michael's price for keys.

Eric

peeplj · Post by **peeplj** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:15 am

My Hamilton is the best flute made, and it's the one I use for sessions and playing in public the majority of the time.

However, there is a reason I still have my M&E and Seery flutes, just like there's a reason I still have my old German 8-key.

Also, there is a particular kind of sound that I can get on my M&E that I just can't get (maybe I should put the word "yet" here) on my Hamilton, a sound that blends well with recorders and is useful for other kinds of music than Irish.

Here's my 6-key M&E in a duet with a recorder, demonstrating:

http://www.flutesite.com/samples/flute_rec_duet.mp3

--James

dow · Post by **dow** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:47 am

peeplj wrote:...Here's my 6-key M&E in a duet with a recorder, demonstrating:

http://www.flutesite.com/samples/flute_rec_duet.mp3

--James

Very nice James. I've always liked that piece, although I've never known the name of it.

GaryKelly · Post by **GaryKelly** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:53 am

peeplj wrote:My Hamilton is the best flute made,

peeplj · Post by **peeplj** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:54 am

dow wrote:
peeplj wrote:...Here's my 6-key M&E in a duet with a recorder, demonstrating:

http://www.flutesite.com/samples/flute_rec_duet.mp3

--James
Very nice James. I've always liked that piece, although I've never known the name of it.

That's the Adagio from the Loeillet Sonata No. 1.

It's a personal favorite.

--James

dow · Post by **dow** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:02 am

GaryKelly wrote:
peeplj wrote:My Hamilton is the best flute made,

But does it handle like a hippopotamus on rails?

peeplj · Post by **peeplj** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:05 am

GaryKelly wrote:
peeplj wrote:My Hamilton is the best flute made,

I should have added the words "in my opinion"...sorry bout that, fingers were typing faster than brain can think.

---James