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DaleWisely wrote:Garamond is the world's greatest font.
Don't tell my husband that. He's convinced that it's evil. It seems that whenever someone does part of the laying out of one of our books, they invariably choose Garamond (or is it AGaramond...is there much of a difference?), and he finds it detestable.

I personally like that Symbol one...it makes me feel like I'm typing in secret code or something
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Nah. Rotis rulezz!
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The PC folk (and inherent MS Word) seem to be stuck with TNR as a default, I guess. Our newspaper uses regular Times at 11 pt. for the seniors. We are using the Open Type version of regular Times now so we have to convert the reporters stories over from TNR (they are all on PCs, design dept. on Macs). The type setting options of InDesign, combined with the new OT Pro fonts will make any sow's ear into a silk purse, so expect most publications to look better.

Garamond is a beautiful font but was nearly destroyed by Apple's insistence on using a compressed nearly unreadable version in all of their lengthy instruction manuals (which were purposely lengthy to discourage photocopying said the folk legend). The Adobe Pro versions of any of these fonts (yes, AGaramond is different as there are about four or five Garamonds out there, I think) are usually as beautiful as can be. Some of my favorites are Cochin and Minion for example (as well as their Pro Garamond).

But, getting back to topic, I would informally ban TNR, along with the despised ARIAL, the latter of which should be locked in the same cell with Zapf Chancery, and the key thrown away. Using Chancery will get ya an instant F from a graphics instructor I know.

Speaking of multiple versions, don't even drop the H-bomb (Helvetica).
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Post by Flyingcursor »

I guess I prefer TNR to Garamond. Arial and Helvetica aren't that much different from each other but I think Helvetica is a little cleaner looking depending on the size. As long as I can read it I don't care that much.
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The Weekenders wrote:Using Chancery will get ya an instant F from a graphics instructor I know.
The one I get most tired of seeing is Mistral (which we sold as Zephyr). It's everywhere, it's everywhere! (But at least no one uses it in body text.)

We (Casady & Greene, that is) contracted with Linotype to do a version of their Garamond, but it fell through because it was too expensive. I have a copy of the C&G version on my Mac, but don't have it installed.
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Something I run into all the time programming for Netscape is the font names it wants to use, e.g. I don't have a font specifically named Helvetica, but that's the built-in default. Does anyone know what the class/family of font names are that Netscape (or browsers in general) use so that I can map this to what I have in Windows. I'm hoping this will give me a better idea of what my pages will look like on other peoples' machines.

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Melanie wrote:When I was in college I remember that New York always came in handy when trying to "stretch" a paper. Tasteful....yet....space-consuming. :)
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djm wrote:Bump
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Darwin wrote:I can't understand how any non-black-letter fonts came to be called "Gothic".

Here are a few that I made for Casady & Greene back in the early '90s.
Except for the last, none have ths slightest relation to either Times or Gothics.
(The images are screen fonts are not antialiased. The printed versions are much nicer.)

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I'm a fontaholic. I love fonts, and collect them madly. I can't stand Times New Roman. I do, however, adore two of the fonts that you showed up above: Paladin and Slender Gold. I covet them.

In the midst of watching a television show or movie, or driving down the road, I have been known to yell out "That's the [fill in the blank] font!". Truly!

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Does anyone know what the class/family of font names are that Netscape (or browsers in general) use so that I can map this to what I have in Windows.

Thx,

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Ya gotta love a good ligature! Quite fond(t) of the Adobe Garamond - just can't go wrong there. Some titling typefaces are gorgeous - Mrs. Eaves, yum! Some beautious sans faces too DIN and Akzidenz, oh baby!! And one that's always on in my Suitcase: TheSans.

Dale, if you have the power, please make Times New Roman vanish!

(and get a Macintosh for cryin' out loud!)
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aderyn_du wrote:
Darwin wrote:I can't understand how any non-black-letter fonts came to be called "Gothic".

Here are a few that I made for Casady & Greene back in the early '90s.
Except for the last, none have ths slightest relation to either Times or Gothics.
(The images are screen fonts are not antialiased. The printed versions are much nicer.)

Image Image

Image Image

Image Image Image

Image

I'm a fontaholic. I love fonts, and collect them madly. I can't stand Times New Roman. I do, however, adore two of the fonts that you showed up above: Paladin and Slender Gold. I covet them.

In the midst of watching a television show or movie, or driving down the road, I have been known to yell out "That's the [fill in the blank] font!". Truly!

Fonts are art.
i love fonts, too. it's amazing to me how many thousands of ways people have invented to write the same letter. the more extravagant the better. the only thing i hate is when people use all caps in something like german black letter, which is not designed for it. you can't read it at all.
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Jerry Freeman wrote: I used to listen to my father's dinner time tirades about "artsy fartsy graphics artists" who loved illegible masses of homogeneous sanserif type as a design element and specified "Hairy Helvetica" font.
Gee and I thought we had it bad when we talked about MLA footnotes and the correct numbering system.
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Now thats a classy font.

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