Just remember what my riding instructor, Miss Julie, used to say:The Weekenders wrote:edited for bad posting technique.
Tom, you've got that right. It's also funny that Blackwood seemed to have missed the meaning of the bit he quoted: "... the stuff you might chat about at a social gathering, which this kinda is"TomB wrote:Blackwood wrote:Where do you come up with that? Read the definition Dale posted when he created the Pub forum, it doesn't say anything about "fluff & humor" and certainly did not exclude politics and religion. In fact he as the moderator he started threads about politics and religion.Because the postructural pub is essentially about fluff & humor, and not essentially about politics. It's the postructural whistle board minus the whistles. That you're asking this question makes me feel like you never bothered to look around and get a feel for the place.
Don't twist the facts to suit your agenda....
This forum is for posts that are off-topic, that is not related to whistles, flutes, pipes, Irish traditional music, and so on. It's general conversation, wide ranging topics. The kind of stuff you might chat about at a social gathering, which this kinda is.
No need to label posts OT (Off Topic) on this forum.
I suspect that Bloomfield was simply talking about what the majority of OT posts were in the past, that's all. Bloomfield wouldn't argue that he never participated in political/religious discussions.
As to Dale starting them, yeah, no kidding, he has said that many times recently.
Tom
ditto. I almost pulled out the pompoms but showed some restraint.The Weekenders wrote:I have appreciated your attempts Bloo. It's been a long time since you engaged in a non-music thread for an extended period of time. I'm not sure if it was worth it, but I enjoy your brilliance and fluidity of thought and expression.
He he!! Miss Julie would have got the sack if she'd said that here!emmline wrote:Just remember what my riding instructor, Miss Julie, used to say:The Weekenders wrote:edited for bad posting technique.
"Nice posting trot, trot posting," and you'll either catch on or get a sore fanny.
edit: I hate when I post something really stupid and it ends up at the top of the next page.
Don't pretend that this has anything to do with civility, or that extraordinary restraint in that respect is required of you.Blackwood wrote:for the sake of civility let's agree and leave it at that. We are obviously totally talking past each other..But I am beginning to agree that it's getting ridiculous.
... to which your response was:Bloomfield wrote:I think this "they can ignore threads if they like" doesn't work past a certain point. I mean, people come here to read threads, not to ignore threads. If there are only a few threads to ignore, it's fine: those are easy to ignore (like a sticky political/religous thread), and the character of the place isn't changed. But once there are more than a certain number of political threads, I think just ignoring them ceases to be a workable option.Blackwood wrote:Dale, I'm at an intellectual loss here. It is so simple: If they are bothered by them why do they read them? Nobody forces anyone to read a single political post or thread. Anyone is free to start threads of their interest.But, I have come to understand how a substantial number of people find all the political threads bothersome
The reason is that there is a certain tone to (most) political threads that is serious, a bit antagonistic and argumentative, and as a result stressful and polarizing. I think a big part of the chiffboard has always been light-hearted banter and mutual supportive coddling---that sort of thing becomes harder merely because there are many antagonistic and argumentative threads (which may or may not be politicial... but often are; although you could observe the same effect when we had a stream of antagonistic threads about particular whistles or whistle makers).
What do you mean, "why?" There is a whole paragraph explaining why I think just ignoring political threads doesn't work when there is too many of them (it's starts with "The reason is that..."). Of course I can be wrong, or perhaps it doesn't make sense to you, but what do you mean by just asking me to give reasons after I just gave you my reasons? And without even responding to the reasons I gave.Blackwood wrote:Why? Is there a hypnotic effect that causes people to read them? Sorry the argument makes 0 sense to me...But once there are more than a certain number of political threads, I think just ignoring them ceases to be a workable option.
There's always someone to stir the pot. Always will be. I've usually taken it that the motivations for that are like as not boredom, perversity, some kind of agenda, or impulse control issues. I can say this because I've done so myself for the same reasons, and humankind being humankind, we pretty much all hew to the same dynamics. I pick and choose the "trouble" I get into, as do we all. I don't think that the objections here are about not wanting any trouble and living in a cyberworld of rainbows, unicorns, and CareBears. I think that the reason for such an orgy of hair-splitting on this thread is that people are taking exception to a poll that smacks of high-profile complaining, whether or not that was your intention, Jack. If this was supposed to be a "fun thread" as you posited somewhwere back, why aren't people getting it? It's worth asking.jGilder wrote:We just don't want any trouble... ok?Nanohedron wrote:All's I want is a hot bath, a bottle of hooch, and...say, where's Miss Kitty?jGilder wrote: Ok, everyone that comes into this town has to turn in their guns to the sheriff's office... we don't want anyone getting hurt now, ya hear?
It was a fun way of presenting a serious topic. If I just started this topic without the Old West Allegory I doubt it would have made it this far. I didn't want to give the impression that I disapprove of Dale's handling of this issue, but rather that I understand how difficult it is. And I did want to discuss it as well.Nanohedron wrote:If this was supposed to be a "fun thread" as you posited somewhwere back, why aren't people getting it? It's worth asking.
Fair enough. *kicks back, grabs the popcorn*jGilder wrote:It was a fun way of presenting a serious topic. If I just started this topic without the Old West Allegory I doubt it would have made it this far. I didn't want to give the impression that I disapprove of Dale's handling of this issue, but rather that I understand how difficult it is. And I did want to discuss it as well.Nanohedron wrote:If this was supposed to be a "fun thread" as you posited somewhwere back, why aren't people getting it? It's worth asking.
I like this place, I think the effort is worth the difficulty in discussing it. I may be silly to think it will do any good, but I really do hope it will help.
I love this... "Obsession.org"toasty wrote:A regular observer of all sorts of things on the Internet about Irtrad and its instruments, happenings etc.
Jack G seems to be making a name for himself - see the Obsession dot org, where abuse by the in-crowd used be the order of the day for anybody who they felt threatened them, and yes Mr Jack you posted there as well, but I cannot recall your input as being ..um anti-social.
Don't worry, I appreciate this board... and Dale.toasty wrote:Anyway the Obsession is a place for wieners and wannabes, so comming over here was a move up in the world for ya! Perhaps you might want to adjust to Dale as opposed to King-sh*t who runs carphole dot com.
