The men in balaclavas say they'll go away

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The men in balaclavas say they'll go away

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The IRA has just issued their long awaited statement ordering all units to disband arms, end armed struggle (and all 'other activities') and devote themselves to peaceful and democratic means from 16.00 today.
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Amazing. I hope it's true and can continue.

Makes one think there IS some hope for the human race!
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Think maybe the London events have something to do with this?
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OnTheMoor wrote:Think maybe the London events have something to do with this?
No.

"Republicans had been under intense pressure to end IRA activity after the £26.5m Northern Bank raid in December and the murder of Belfast man Robert McCartney in January. "

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Absolutely.
susnfx wrote:
OnTheMoor wrote:Think maybe the London events have something to do with this?
No.

"Republicans had been under intense pressure to end IRA activity after the £26.5m Northern Bank raid in December and the murder of Belfast man Robert McCartney in January. "

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What Susan says is true, but OnTheMoor raises a point. It must be getting increasingly hard to remain convinced that terrorism is a viable way to pursue political aims like those to which the Irish republicans aspire. Pragmatically, it makes more sense to align oneself by turning one's back on terrorism than by continuing to use it (or even to keep it in one's gameplan as a real option) in the current climate.
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I heard the news today as well.

It's a momentous occasion.
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I wonder if the splinter groups will follow.
The Real IRA have been the most active in recent years.

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Wasn't the whole idea of the split in the republican movement that the small groups didn't want part of the peace process?
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You mean recently or way back, Peter?

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I have heard that a great deal of the organized crime in Ireland is in the hands of the IRA (drugs, prostitution, extortion, etc.). Perhaps things have got so lucrative that they don't need to worry about terrorism any more (?).

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GaryKelly wrote:Fingers crossed.
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Peter Laban wrote:Wasn't the whole idea of the split in the republican movement that the small groups didn't want part of the peace process?
Indeed. Splinters have been the rule rather than the exception, at least as far back as 1921, and there were splinters even before, for various reasons.
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djm wrote:I have heard that a great deal of the organized crime in Ireland is in the hands of the IRA (drugs, prostitution, extortion, etc.). Perhaps things have got so lucrative that they don't need to worry about terrorism any more (?).

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One big condition in the peaceprocess has always been that criminal activities are disbanded as well. It was a big issue last december when the IRA did not want to subscribe to that. Both governments made a big point of it and in response Gerry Adams was on television saying 'you can't be a volunteer in the republican movement and a criminal at the same time' (in effect saying there were no republicans mixed up in crime). That was days before the Northern Bank heist and the murder of Robert McCartney followed soon after. Public opinion didn't take well to that. And they've been trying to fix the situation ever since.

On another note: also remember that nearly all prisoners, regardless of the crimes they were convicted of, were released under the terms of the Good Friday agreement.
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Last time I was in Belfast I was talking to a few friends there who, believing that most IRA members were thugs, still thought that they had a somewhat "positive" effect of not allowing any foreign gangs to do business there. A visit from the boys from Belfast usually sent Jamaicans or Asian gangs packing. Is there any truth to that?
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