Anyone wanna trade their M&E R&R for my Seery?

Jayhawk · Post by **Jayhawk** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:26 pm

As per the subject, does anyone want to trade an M&E R&R for a delrin Seery? This is my much beloved Seery, but after acquiring my rosewood Sweetheart, I realized how the Seery's embouchure is difficult for me due to an injury to my lip as a child (I need a more oval embouchure than the Seery has). In contrast, the M&E R&R embouchure is much more like the sweetheart flute embouchure.

The Seery is in perfect shape, comes with a cavallero roll, and sounds great.

So the offer is a straight up trade with each paying postage and insurance.

PM or email me if interested.

Eric

Henke · Post by **Henke** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:38 pm

Ahh, too bad I didn't keep the keyless R&R when I got my keyed one, I sent mine back to Michael and only paid for the keys. I would have loved to get a Seery as well. How much would you want if you sold it?

Jayhawk · Post by **Jayhawk** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:34 pm

Henke - that is too bad. The trade would be the ideal thing for me - otherwise I'd have to order an M&E from Michael, wait for it and possibly pay import taxes. I'm not in any rush, so hopefully someone will have an urge to try the other side of the polymer world...

Eric

bang · Post by **bang** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:17 am

is the M&E R&R as sleek and lightweight as a Seery? the original M&E is relatively large & heavy vs Seery.

also fwiw, you might consider one of Jon C's R&R based flutes in delrin. mine is amazingly good, quite sleek, very reasonable $, & "made in the USA".

enjoy! /dan

Henke · Post by **Henke** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:20 am

The M&E R&R is quite heavy with thick walls. However, I don't have any problems with playing it for extended periods, even after I got 5 solid silver keys fitted on it. The keys are quite heavy aswell, but I don't think it weights too much for comfort, rather it gives a very sturdy feeling.

bang · Post by **bang** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:10 pm

Henke wrote:The M&E R&R is quite heavy with thick walls. [...]I don't think it weights too much for comfort, rather it gives a very sturdy feeling.

i agree that my original M&E is not too heavy, and the higher inertia vs other flutes gives it a nice, solid feel in the hands. it did take me longer to develop the necessary strength to play the M&E comfortably. personally i enjoy the extra bit of ease when playing lighter flutes. if the light weight & feel of a Seery is important, a heavier M&E might be less desirable.

i also wonder if the thicker walls on an M&E R&R affect the "Rudall sound" much. my original M&E, which has a significantly smaller bore than R&R flutes and consequently deeper toneholes, seems perhaps more Rudally than Rudall - i.e. darker, thicker toned. i quite like it's sound for some things, but it seems to go to one extreme of the sonic spectrum.

but, that's an original M&E, & i am but a speculating newbie, so this is perhaps OT & very fwiw.

enjoy! /dan

Jayhawk · Post by **Jayhawk** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:26 pm

Offer for the Seery/M&E R&R trade is still open.

Eric

Jack Bradshaw · Post by **Jack Bradshaw** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:35 am

Unfortuatelllly...the M&E R&Rs tend to be keepers (you can have my flute when you take it from my cold, dead fingers..etc) You need to do a fair amount of detective work to track down a used one (Yes it's the only flute I ever had to buy new..)

Much as I wouldn't mind having a Seery around, the M&E has built up too much of a barroom history not to keep it around for illustrations....besides the thing plays better (my opinion anyway)

What did M. Eskin do with the one he was reveiwing when they first came out ?...

Henke · Post by **Henke** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:18 pm

The only chance that I would have parted with an M&E is if I had two M&E R&R's, which I had for nearly two weeks, then I had to send the keyless one back...

eilam · Post by **eilam** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:45 pm

thats funny Henke, because I got a keyed one from Michael, which played really nice, but I realized that there is no way that I would part from my keyless, so I send the keyed one back, I was not 100% happy with the keys too (but they were deferent then what you have on your flute).
I did buy a Seery, and was not happy with it, and returned it, but that one may have been an odd ball - the work was so crude, like it was made in 15 minutes or less.

Jayhawk · Post by **Jayhawk** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:14 pm

Eilam - when did you buy that Seery? Mine is extremely well made. Larry the woodenflute.com webkeeper when I told him I was playing a delrin Seery, asked to see it, took of his glasses to stare intently, and stated that he couldn't tell it wasn't wood and that the craftsmanship was first rate (he plays a Grinter).

So...does that entice anyone to want and trade?

For all you M&E R&R junkies, please stare intently in a mirror and repeat..."I do want to try a Seery, I do want to try a Seery...".

Thanks for your support,

Eric

eilam · Post by **eilam** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:36 pm

Eric, it was quite a few years ago, maybe 6 or 5? years later, I was told that around that time, there was a death in the family, that may explain the fact that the flute was poorly made?
Don't get me wrong, I really want a Seery, and am keeping an eye for a used one, but my M&E is one of my favorite flutes to play, and a have quite a few flutes that cost a number of times more.

Jayhawk · Post by **Jayhawk** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:39 pm

Eilam - I can tell from your defiant tone that you did not spend sufficient time in front of the mirror...

Eric

eilam · Post by **eilam** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:11 am

Eric, I'm not quite sure what you are saying, I hope you know that I was not down talking Seery flutes in general, but if you were trying to insult me, you hit it right on, looking in the mirror at times can really hurt.
anyway - did not mean to hurt your feelings.
eilam.

Jayhawk · Post by **Jayhawk** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:16 am

Eilam - I was only joking - a post or two above I was suggesting self hypnotic techniques for M&E owners to convince themselves they want to trade their much loved instruments. No offense intended...

Eric