OT: No Motorway Through Tara!

Patrick D'Arcy · Post by **Patrick D'Arcy** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:17 pm

Sorry to impose this on the list but I am deeply disturbed by the arrogance behind this sort of thing.

Sign this petition and help save Irelands Heart and Soul - The Hill of Tara

Further Information:
http://www.protect-tara.org/

Sign The Petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/Temair/petition.html

Patrick.

Lorenzo · Post by **Lorenzo** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:24 pm

Can't the gov't of Ireland afford to set some of these special historical places aside as parks or monuments? Is this what comes with economic success?

djm · Post by **djm** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:34 pm

Its what comes from local indifference. I am told that Tara is seldom visited, and is tucked away out of sight off some backroad. If the Irish can't be bothered enough about their own heritage it is hardly the place of foreigners to tell them what they've got.

djm

Patrick D'Arcy · Post by **Patrick D'Arcy** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:59 pm

I am Irish djm. People from all over the world, including Ireland, read this forum.

Patrick.

brianc · Post by **brianc** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:00 pm

Couldn't agree more, Patrick.

I have dual citizenship, and I don't see a problem with making my voice heard.

Tara may be in an 'out of the way' place, but consider what should be the outcry if, say, the Bunker Hill memorial were to be supplanted by asphalt pavement.

(For those that aren't in the known, the Bunker Hill monument is located in Charlestown, Massachusetts, just outside of Boston... the surrounding area is a fairly rough neighborhood... sort of an 'out of way' place, too.)

SAVE TARA!

Cayden · Post by **Cayden** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:19 pm

Just to be clear, the planned motorway is not exactly going through the Hill of Tara but it's the integrity of the whole archeological landscape around it that's at stake.

rorybbellows · Post by **rorybbellows** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:56 pm

With all due respect there Patrick I don,t think the heart and soul of Ireland resides in the hill of tara! There is a certain arrogance in that assumsion as there is in other people telling the the people who live in the local area that they cant have a road to aleavate their terrible traffic probelms

RORY

Patrick D'Arcy · Post by **Patrick D'Arcy** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:09 pm

Ah for feck sake... here we go!

Forget I fecking said anything. Maybe you're on to something there rorybellows.... they should get rid of all these rotten old ruins around the country and turn them into nice mini-malls and car show rooms.... I take it all back.... you are spot on.

Jesus Christ.

PD.

rorybbellows · Post by **rorybbellows** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:20 pm

Oh I,m sorry there Patrick I didn,t realise we were suppost to just blindly agree with you

RORY

brianc · Post by **brianc** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:21 pm

Yep - absolutely - every town in Ireland should be like Dublin, right?

"Pave it all, to hell with the history and heritage".

Sheesh.

:roll:

As for me, I've passed that petition on to 20-something folks on my e-mail list.

There ARE alternatives to every supposed "solution".

Patrick D'Arcy · Post by **Patrick D'Arcy** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:36 pm

brianc wrote:There ARE alternatives to every supposed "solution".

Exactly! Can you imagine Egypt doing this with the pyramids? And this is exactly the same thing.

PD.

brianc · Post by **brianc** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:42 pm

PD,

The pyramids are a much better example, well said.

And what the hey - how about a Disneyland amusement park at the foot of Croke Patrick ?

The Sporting Pitchfork · Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:12 pm

brianc wrote:Yep - absolutely - every town in Ireland should be like Dublin, right?

"Pave it all, to hell with the history and heritage".

Sheesh.

Well, they did that in Japan. More concrete, anyone? And don't get me started on China...

I thought you inscrutable Europeans were supposed to be a little more enlightened about this kind of stuff.

tompipes · Post by **tompipes** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:30 pm

Do you know what they should do too.
Put a dual carrigeway up Carrauntuohil so tourists can drive up it. Throw in a few lions and tigers as well for tourist to take pictures of and a McDonalds drive through slap bang in Sally's Gap, none of yer aul chip vans there. maybe a Jack in the Box. (for those reading outside the USA, Jack in the Box is a fast food place that stops you from shighting for days)

I do realise the road is not going through the Hill but there are alternative routes. There are local farms split in half, parents have to drive 5/6/7 extra miles to get to a crossing to get to work, school. I've relations in the area and my parents are 13/14 miles away from it so I'm hearing all the gossip.
its the same old same old, local construction firms are still firing brown envelopes full of cash to local politicians for contracts and bankrupt farmers are screaming at the local planning authorithy "BUY MY LAND"
I'm from North County Dublin where if you wanted planning permission for anything, large or small, you bribed the local rep. And its still happening.
Its a loadamebollix.

innerhand · Post by **innerhand** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:33 pm

Well, they did that in Japan.

Yes,they did and they(we)are shamelessly still doing.....