"Going Home"

rkottke · Post by **rkottke** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:52 am

A while back, I heard a person playing on a whistle "Going Home" from Dvorak's New World Symphony. It was fantastic. Any idea where I might find whistle-friendly sheet music for it?

emmline · Post by **emmline** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:53 pm

There's a short bit of it in The Whistler's Pocket Companion, but I'm expecting someone to do better than that.

claudine · Post by **claudine** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:08 pm

could it be this one?

emmline · Post by **emmline** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:13 pm

That's it. Also known as Symphony in E Minor, from New World 2nd movement.

If you want to play it in D, it starts on an F sharp.

chattiekathy · Post by **chattiekathy** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:59 pm

Here are the dots in the key of D. Along with the dulicmer tab. Lots of other great songs here too. Songs are listed alphabetically scroll down to find "Going Home".

http://everythingdulcimer.com/tab/#256

Cheers,
Kathy

jbarter · Post by **jbarter** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:20 am

claudine wrote:could it be this one?

'E were a grrrand baker, mi dad. (Tee hee. That should confuse the non-UK Chiffers.)

GaryKelly · Post by **GaryKelly** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:31 am

Aye. It were a long way oop that 'ill, but coming down...!

rkottke · Post by **rkottke** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:45 am

Thanks to you all.

talasiga · Post by **talasiga** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:54 am

chattiekathy wrote:Here are the dots in the key of D.
Along with the dulicmer tab. Lots of other great songs here too.
Songs are listed alphabetically scroll down to find "Going Home".

http://everythingdulcimer.com/tab/#256

Cheers,
Kathy

Ah! I see! Its been transposed from E minor to B minor key (signature)!

IDAwHOa · Post by **IDAwHOa** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:09 am

talasiga wrote:
chattiekathy wrote:Here are the dots in the key of D.
Along with the dulicmer tab. Lots of other great songs here too.
Songs are listed alphabetically scroll down to find "Going Home".

http://everythingdulcimer.com/tab/#256

Cheers,
Kathy
Ah! I see! Its been transposed from E minor to B minor key (signature)!

Huh? Care to explain?

chattiekathy · Post by **chattiekathy** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:00 am

NorCalMusician wrote:
talasiga wrote:
chattiekathy wrote:Here are the dots in the key of D.
Along with the dulicmer tab. Lots of other great songs here too.
Songs are listed alphabetically scroll down to find "Going Home".

http://everythingdulcimer.com/tab/#256

Cheers,
Kathy
Ah! I see! Its been transposed from E minor to B minor key (signature)!

Huh? Care to explain?

Since I am just learning to read music, I might be wrong about the key. My understanding is that if there are 2 sharps and the last note ends on a D, That most likely it is in the key of D. I would appreciate an explanation of how it is the b minor key for future reference.

Thanks,
Kathy

talasiga · Post by **talasiga** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 3:55 pm

Key Signature of E minor and G major = same thang
Key signature of B minor and D major = same thang

Its just that if something with a G tonic in the original is expressed as being in E minor
(for whatever reason)
it is more covenient when its transposed to D tonic to express it as transposed to key of B minor
(rather than as key of D) .
For consistency you see.
Otherwise, for those not familiar with the piece, it may create momentary confusion and askance.

But even that has its delights and made me to laugh

(at myself).

Also orchestral music compositions are multi-modal and the key
signature for the staff notation does not dictate a single tonic for
all the different strands of music within the piece.

Ultimately the piece will resolve harmonically into the key
that the composer has in mind, for instance in the piece in question
it will all resolve to E natural minor.

Let me use an example with the key signature in D (also denotes B minor).
Let's say I've written a composition for 3 instruments and the predominant chord is D major.
Now, in this piece I'm using an Irish flute and it is playing a strand with an A tonic (Mixolydian mode)
and I also have a sarangi playing a strand with a D tonic (Ionian mode)
and a bouzouki doing Phrygian riffs (with F# tonic) and regular strums of D major chord.
For the purpose of this "unison" of musical strands, the piece must be written in
D major. However you will see that singling out one instrument's strand
- let's say the bouzouki -
and saying its in D major does not help our modal
appreciation and understanding of the strand.
The key signature is only relevant to how the piece of music is staff
notated and serves
as an index to what the tonics in the piece may be.

It would be more useful to say the bouzouki plays with F# tonic in a D major piece.

talasiga · Post by **talasiga** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:15 pm

A DISTILLATION.

"Going Home" is a pentatonic piece within the major scale range.
Its upward motion omits the 4th and the 7th and its downward motion
omits the 6th and the 4th.
It could be considered Raag Deshkar in ascent and Raag Hans-dhwani in descent.

hence the practise of the following Raag modes may enhance the performance
of the piece of music:-

(using D tonic)
D E F# A B A B D+ (going up)
E+ D+ C# F# A F# E D (coming down)

peteinmn · Post by **peteinmn** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:24 pm

It's completely clear to me now!

chattiekathy · Post by **chattiekathy** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:57 pm

peteinmn wrote:It's completely clear to me now!

Ditto

:roll:

I see! It's that mode thing again. One of these days, I will understand exactly what they are about. I get that modes give the music a kind of "mood" so I do kind of get what you are saying. Thank you for taking the time to explain it.

I never realized that you could mix modes. That's neat.

Cheers,
Kathy

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