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MarkB · Post by **MarkB** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:50 am

Jon's too hot for Wal-Mart

Store chain yanks 'Daily Show' host best-seller over nude pix

Full story here

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/ ... 9278c.html

This is worse than outside terrorists!!

MarkB

emmline · Post by **emmline** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:54 am

Wal-Marts makes me feel claustrophobic and repelled. I avoid them.

Flyingcursor · Post by **Flyingcursor** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:55 am

I saw that on Fark. Great flame war.

chas · Post by **chas** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:02 am

MarkB wrote: This is worse than outside terrorists!!

How so? Wal-Mart is a private company; they can sell or not sell anything they want (well, not exactly, but I suspect you catch my drift). I suspect they don't sell Playboy, Penthouse, etc. -- do you have a problem with that? If you don't like it, you don't have to shop there.

If a public library didn't circulate it because of the picture, I'd agree with you.

McHaffie · Post by **McHaffie** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:21 am

I definately agree that Wal-Mart, or any other privately owned institution has the right to do whatever they want on this kind of issue...

Just for the general principle of dropping my $.02 in though I have to say that it's kind of odd really when you think about it really.

I mean, you have a book with ONE PAGE that has humorously displayed nudity, and you yank it from the store... so we're basing this on the fact that some or most of our customers 'might be offended. Ok then... well take a few more steps further into the store and find the GUN department with many rifles, some stores have handguns too, plenty of ammo to go along with them. Now, I certainly don't have anything against guns, I grew up with them. However, there is certainly a large population that don't.

So I just think it's kind of funny when you think about how a company will suddenly worry about one aspect of their public image and ignore another. It's all based on someone's opinion in the company and that's that!

So say I... an insignificant individual with no voice in the matter whatsoever!! AND I MEAN IT!!!

glauber · Post by **glauber** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:22 am

I think it's pretty stupid to be worried about a picture buried inside a book (which people shouldn't be reading in there anyway).

But then, it's Wal-Mart. Enough said.

Bretton · Post by **Bretton** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:35 am

emmline wrote:Wal-Marts makes me feel claustrophobic and repelled. I avoid them.

Mee too!! I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one...I get in a really bad mood when I'm forced to visit a Wal Mart.

-Brett

izzarina · Post by **izzarina** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:56 am

Bretton wrote:
emmline wrote:Wal-Marts makes me feel claustrophobic and repelled. I avoid them.
Mee too!! I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one...I get in a really bad mood when I'm forced to visit a Wal Mart.

-Brett

I despise Walmart (and the whole "Walmart mentality"). When I do have to go there, it's so loud and obnoxious (they have televisions suspended from the ceiling in ours, and they are EVERYWHERE!) and I end up with a headache when I go. I would much prefer to patronize local small businesses rather than contribute to Walmart.

It's unfortunate that "Mom and Pop" shops are becoming increasingly rare these days.

TomB · Post by **TomB** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:59 am

McHaffie wrote:I definately agree that Wal-Mart, or any other privately owned institution has the right to do whatever they want on this kind of issue...

Just for the general principle of dropping my $.02 in though I have to say that it's kind of odd really when you think about it really.

I mean, you have a book with ONE PAGE that has humorously displayed nudity, and you yank it from the store... so we're basing this on the fact that some or most of our customers 'might be offended. Ok then... well take a few more steps further into the store and find the GUN department with many rifles, some stores have handguns too, plenty of ammo to go along with them. Now, I certainly don't have anything against guns, I grew up with them. However, there is certainly a large population that don't.

So I just think it's kind of funny when you think about how a company will suddenly worry about one aspect of their public image and ignore another. It's all based on someone's opinion in the company and that's that!

So say I... an insignificant individual with no voice in the matter whatsoever!! AND I MEAN IT!!!

Well, there is at least one Wal-Mart that won't sell guns. I can't recall where it is, but I saw it on the news 2-3 months ago. The town did not want the sale of guns so Wal-Mart agreed to not sell them at that location.

Otherwise I agree. I think it's silly to pull the book, but they have a right to do so if they want, and we have a right to avoid their stores, if we want.

All the Best,

Tom

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:43 am

Walmart also once banned a Sheryl Crow CD.

Walmart is a huge corporation, pays next to nothing to its employees, hires non-citizen immigrants to clean the floors so they can pay them $1 an hour, discriminates against women, and runs small mom-and-pop stores out of business, but like many red-blooded Americans, I shop there all the time.

TomB · Post by **TomB** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:49 am

Cranberry wrote:Walmart also once banned a Sheryl Crow CD.

Walmart is a huge corporation, pays next to nothing to its employees, hires non-citizen immigrants to clean the floors so they can pay them $1 an hour, discriminates against women, and runs small mom-and-pop stores out of business, but like many red-blooded Americans, I shop there all the time.

Ah yes, the American way!! :roll:

All the Best, Tom

Leel · Post by **Leel** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:51 am

There are a lot of things good about America, and some great (hypothetically), but Wal-mart is the physical manifestation of much that is bad about us.

You can simply start with rampant commercial consumerism, and it's ugly step-sister: waste.

Not to mention you can't even get into the goll-dang parking lot on a Saturday afternoon!

Redwolf · Post by **Redwolf** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:56 am

I don't see what the big deal is. Most retailers make choices about what they will and will not carry. There's a video store here in town that refuses to stock Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" because they find it "too violent." Now I can tell you, based on the number of slasher films this store stocks, that the real reason they won't stock this movie is because they're pretty sure their clientele won't go for it...and, frankly, that's OK. It's their business, their clientele, their decision. I won't stop shopping at that store because they won't stock this particular movie, but I'm glad there are other places where I can get it. Another example: My local natural foods store won't stock Worthington's vegetarian products because they may contain artificial ingredients, and that's against the store's charter. I happen to like Worthington products, and am willing to go to another store on the other side of town to get them...but I still shop at the local store, and I respect their right not to stock things that contradict their values. Why is that a problem? Freedom of expression applies on the corporate level as well as on the individual level, and if a company believes that a) a product violates the ideals on which the company rests or b) will offend its customers, said company both can and SHOULD refuse to stock that product.

Redwolf

TomB · Post by **TomB** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:57 am

Redwolf wrote:I don't see what the big deal is. Most retailers make choices about what they will and will not carry. There's a video store here in town that refuses to stock Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" because they find it "too violent." Now I can tell you, based on the number of slasher films this store stocks, that the real reason they won't stock this movie is because they're pretty sure their clientele won't go for it...and, frankly, that's OK. It's their business, their clientele, their decision. I won't stop shopping at that store because they won't stock this particular movie, but I'm glad there are other places where I can get it. Another example: My local natural foods store won't stock Worthington's vegetarian products because they may contain artificial ingredients, and that's against the store's charter. I happen to like Worthington products, and am willing to go to another store on the other side of town to get them...but I still shop at the local store, and I respect their right not to stock things that contradict their values. Why is that a problem? Freedom of expression applies on the corporate level as well as on the individual level, and if a company believes that a) a product violates the ideals on which the company rests or b) will offend its customers, said company both can and SHOULD refuse to stock that product.

Redwolf

Yep, you said it. I think that's what most people are saying.

nancymae · Post by **nancymae** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:58 am

Another crappy Wal-mart story.....

Both my daughter and my daughter in law had to work there for a period of time. In both instances, they promised part-time with the availability of getting health insurance availability. When schedules were made, surprise...they were habitually 1 hour short of getting health insurance priviledges! This occured for a period of 2 years at different times.

I don't shop there...it sucks the life right out of you!!! Plus, it does not help America (except monetary Rich America) one iota. They are especially discriminatory to women too...they have soo many suits against them...they are making their lawyers rich!!

It is my choice...just like it is their choice to be hypocrits!

Nancy

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