Kingdom Of Heaven IS The Dreamworld (WHICH IS WITHIN).

emmline · Post by **emmline** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:22 pm

That sounds sorta right. It's been a few years. The only thing that's stuck tight is the word "fewmets."

glauber · Post by **glauber** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:42 pm

DaleWisely wrote:
Darwin wrote:
DaleWisely wrote: The National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty
http://www.ncadp.org
Gosh, Dale, here you are trying to abolish the death penalty just when I'm trying to get it implemented for spammers.

We seem to be working at cross purposes.
Oh, no, no. I'd make an exception for spammers.

No, please! Death is too good for them.

Redwolf · Post by **Redwolf** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 7:22 pm

I cut my finger slicing bread tonight with a big ol' serrated knife. I should be able to use that as an excuse for at least a year!

Redwolf

emmline · Post by **emmline** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 7:49 pm

Once I cut my whole fingertip off (relax...just all the skin layers..) while cutting open a tetrapak of soymilk with scissors, before they installed the little plastic reclosable tops that don't work, and before Silk.

I yelled for tissues, wrapped my now exposed finger muscle, and threw the clump of finger away before anyone else spotted it and could be thoroughly grossed out. (We were at the beach house with extended family.)

Had to pressure-wrap that thing all week, and stay out the ocean few days. Still have no fingerprint there.

Before this accident I played just like Davy Spillane, and was good friends with him too.

TonyHiggins · Post by **TonyHiggins** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:50 pm

I yelled for tissues, wrapped my now exposed finger muscle,

There's no muscle in your fingers, just yucky stuff that's not muscle. That's not to take away from the drama and horror of chopping your finger off (the skin layers, anyway).

The dream thing reminds me of the Teachings of Eckankar. The organization has a Dream Master who you ask to aid in your dreams and he shows up to help you. He's a real guy, the current one is Howard Kemp, I believe. Their stated intentions are completely benign, but the idea creeps me out.
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Jens_Hoppe · Post by **Jens_Hoppe** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 1:47 am

Walden wrote:Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

I never can read that passage without thinking of Monty Python's Life of Brian...

"I think it was 'Blessed are the cheesemakers'."

"Aha, what's so special about the cheesemakers?"

"Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products."

GaryKelly · Post by **GaryKelly** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:26 am

Blessed are the Greek.

"The Greek? Did anyone get his name?"

Walden · Post by **Walden** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:31 am

emmline wrote:
Chuck_Clark wrote:My favorite is the one from Lerner and Loewe:

"I find humility means to be hurt
It's not the earth the meek inherit, it's the dirt."
Yes. Mordred. Excellent anti-hero.
According to T.H.White, the son of Arthur and a witch named....?
(was that Morgan le Fay?)

I read the book about this stuff. Twain said Morgan was Arthur's sister, I believe, in which case, that would just be sick.

MarkB · Post by **MarkB** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:55 am

I lost the tip of my left thumb back in the 80's when a punch press recycled unexpectedly. At the time is was disturbing but it eventually saved me....from learning the rec**der

The other thing is that Worker's Comp assessed me with a 1% loss/disability, so in reality I'm only here at 99% capacity

MarkB

caniadafallon · Post by **caniadafallon** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:42 am

Arthur's half-sister was Morgaine (Morgan le Fay), Morgause was the other half-sister. Mordred was born of a union between Arthur and Morgaine, during a time when keeping the royal bloodline was more important than the half-brother/half-sister relation. It could have been done as high rite type thing, very ceremonial. What we see today as sick or wrong may not have been perceived as so at the time.

Best,
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emmline · Post by **emmline** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:52 am

Well, by T.H.White's telling of the tale, Arthur was bewitched into the tryst anyway.

Post by **Nanohedron** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:55 am

My understanding was that Arthur sired Mordred unknowing of his relation to Morgan, either out of his own temporary ignorance or else while under enchantment; either way, Morgan was portrayed as the culpable one in that fling. But maybe that's just due to Bowdlerization. Or fewmets.

caniadafallon · Post by **caniadafallon** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:12 am

Yes, it has been said by many accountings that neither of them knew who the other was, until it was all said and done. Then there are some who say that Morgen knew, that she orchestrated the whole thing... I guess it all depends on what slant you want to put on it. There are so many versions and re-tellings!

GaryKelly · Post by **GaryKelly** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:08 am

And in Sir James Knowles' "The Legends of KING ARTHUR and his KNIGHTS" (1862), Modred (sic) is the product of Arthur's union with his half-sister Belisent, sent by her husband to spy on Arthur, not Morgan le Fay.

But, perhaps the "definitive" work is "Le Mort d'Arthur", by Thomas Malory, written in the early 15th century (Malory snuffed it in 1470).

In Volume 1, it's neither Morgan le Fay nor Belisent, but Igraine:

CHAPTER XIX

How King Arthur rode to Carlion, and of his dream,
and how he saw the questing beast.

THEN after the departing of King Ban and of King Bors, King
Arthur rode into Carlion. And thither came to him, King Lot's
wife, of Orkney, in manner of a message, but she was sent thither
to espy the court of King Arthur; and she came richly beseen,
with her four sons, Gawaine, Gaheris, Agravine, and Gareth, with
many other knights and ladies. For she was a passing fair lady,
therefore the king cast great love unto her, and desired to lie
by her; so they were agreed, and he begat upon her Mordred, and
she was his sister, on his mother's side, Igraine. So there she
rested her a month, and at the last departed. Then the king
dreamed a marvellous dream whereof he was sore adread. But all
this time King Arthur knew not that King Lot's wife was his
sister.

John S · Post by **John S** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:27 am

"Bring forth the Holy hand-grenade of Antioch"
"Read from the book of Armaments"

John S