Bloomfield wrote:Bill Ochs told me once "practice doesn't make perfect: it makes permanent" and I don't think he meant it as encouragement. He meant it as a warning.
I agree 100% with this, and a number of my teachers/mentors have made this point. This is one reason why many recommend you practice challenging pieces/parts very slowly, because each time you flub it, your "muscle memory" will remember the wrong way of doing things with as much weight as a successful try.
I think that's also why in weight training you're encouraged to use good form even when lifting very light weights, and sometimes to lift just the bar when learning a new lift. Why repeat bad habits, when with a little care you can learn good ones from the start?
Tell us something.: You just slip out the back, Jack Make a new plan, Stan You don't need to be coy, Roy Just get yourself free Hop on the bus, Gus You don't need to discuss much Just drop off the key, Lee And get yourself free
Peter Laban wrote:Annie MCu I don't agree with you (that was an obvious one if ever there was), I maintain that if you learn a tune without the very basic phrasing and rhythm in order it's inmensely hard to unlearn and turn it right , believe me I've been there. it can so easily be avoided by listening to decent playing.
Peter, your words are falling on deaf ears my friend, deaf ears......
When they don't know what they don't know, they think they know......
Peter Laban wrote:Annie MCu I don't agree with you (that was an obvious one if ever there was), I maintain that if you learn a tune without the very basic phrasing and rhythm in order it's inmensely hard to unlearn and turn it right , believe me I've been there. it can so easily be avoided by listening to decent playing.
Peter, your words are falling on deaf ears my friend, deaf ears......
When they don't know what they don't know, they think they know......
Loren
But how will they know that they don't know what they don't know (and therefore they think they know)?
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Peter Laban wrote:Annie MCu I don't agree with you (that was an obvious one if ever there was), I maintain that if you learn a tune without the very basic phrasing and rhythm in order it's inmensely hard to unlearn and turn it right , believe me I've been there. it can so easily be avoided by listening to decent playing.
Peter, your words are falling on deaf ears my friend, deaf ears......
When they don't know what they don't know, they think they know......
Loren
I ain't no deefer ner you... we'll jist havta agree ta disagree... agreed?
anniemcu
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When I started playing, was I one of the only beginner in history who accepted the fact that I might have been clueless (and still are, but not as much) ? It seems so.
Azalin wrote:When I started playing, was I one of the only beginner in history who accepted the fact that I might have been clueless (and still are, but not as much) ? It seems so.
I, too, accepted the fact that you were clueless, Az.
Azalin wrote:When I started playing, was I one of the only beginner in history who accepted the fact that I might have been clueless (and still are, but not as much) ? It seems so.
Tell us something.: Whistle player, aspiring C#/D accordion and flute player, and aspiring tunesmith. Particularly interested in the music of South Sligo and Newfoundland. Inspired by the music of Peter Horan, Fred Finn, Rufus Guinchard, Emile Benoit, and Liz Carroll.
I dunno -- for me, it wasn't when I was a raw beginner. It was after I had been playing for about a year. I knew a bunch of tunes, and ran into a bunch of beginners I thought I was clearly better than. Even though I knew there were better players around, my confidence soared, and I thought I was a much better player than I really was. It was nearly another two years before I got a clue.
Or to put it in the context of this thread -- when I was over-confident, I would gladly have made a recording of the Kesh to post as a good example for beginners to study. Today, I am a much better player -- and I would never dream of recording the Kesh for beginners. I simply do not play it well enough to be an example for someone. Too many bad habits picked up playing it when I thought I knew what I was doing.
Loren wrote:"I've crossed swords with Serpent once or twice in the past over violations of board policy. But, whatever he pretends to be, he's no fool. He's a very talented hustler. I bet in the last week he's had more hits on his website than in the last three months. Do you think that would have happened if there hadn't been this controversy?"
Now we're getting somewhere.
Loren
He's good at what he does, except the whistlemaking thing.
Tell us something.: You just slip out the back, Jack Make a new plan, Stan You don't need to be coy, Roy Just get yourself free Hop on the bus, Gus You don't need to discuss much Just drop off the key, Lee And get yourself free
Loren wrote:"I've crossed swords with Serpent once or twice in the past over violations of board policy. But, whatever he pretends to be, he's no fool. He's a very talented hustler. I bet in the last week he's had more hits on his website than in the last three months. Do you think that would have happened if there hadn't been this controversy?"
Now we're getting somewhere.
Loren
He's good at what he does, except the whistlemaking thing.
Tell us something.: You just slip out the back, Jack Make a new plan, Stan You don't need to be coy, Roy Just get yourself free Hop on the bus, Gus You don't need to discuss much Just drop off the key, Lee And get yourself free
