Instruments, Only $472,850.00 US

chattiekathy · Post by **chattiekathy** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:31 pm

Someone posted this on another forum and I knew you would be interested.

http://www.insightsconsulting.biz/Instr ... sicoll.htm

Cheers,
Kathy

Lark · Post by **Lark** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:46 pm

I would dear say this this fellow had a problem with collecting instruments,

one that would qualify for the need of counselling, however I didn’t see any recorders ( I may of missed them ) but that indicates that he was not completely mad.

spittin_in_the_wind · Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:24 pm

To Blackbeer: No, you can't have one! NO, NO, NO!!!

Robin

Crysania · Post by **Crysania** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:59 pm

Wow...and people here think WHOA is bad? That's an AMAZING collection...*drools over the flutes and those great 19th century clarinets*

~Crysania

Lorenzo · Post by **Lorenzo** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:25 pm

Out of the 163 items, the first 162 are not worth over an average of $500 apiece, USD, for a total of about $81,000. #63, the square grand piano is over priced too, at $7500. There's a few unique instruments like the hurdy gurdy, and a Gibson mandolin and archtop guitar. Most all the flutes are like those on ebay that sell for under $250, and all the parlor guitars are neat, some are unique with the MOP fretboards, but way over-priced. I'll pass, and be about $400,000 richer for doing so.

jim stone · Post by **jim stone** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:30 am

I sometimes wish these people wouldn't do this,
because it's hard to believe that the playable instruments
are being played, and there are people who would
play 'em. There was a store in New Orleans that
basically sold vintage guitars to Japanese tourists,
who like to collect vintage guitars and whose
friends would videotape them buying their
vintage guitar so they could watch it
for the rest of their lives....Best

Stu H · Post by **Stu H** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:21 am

Although I will concede that occasionaly an historically important and rare instrument should be preserved for study/research/prosperity etc as far as I can assertain the ones on this list were designed for only one purpose - playing. Unfortunatley we live in a world obsessed with price rather than cost, value or worth. It is gratifying that the majority of 'fipplers' do appreciate that the words 'best' & 'better' are subjective terms and are easily replaced with 'different'

Remember:

'The man who knows the price of everything, knows the cost of nothing'

mignal · Post by **mignal** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 6:54 am

That's a serious collection of early,mid and late romantic guitars.
Stauffer,Torres,Lacote,Panormo,Martin,Gibson - all have made a profound impression on the history and development of the guitar. The valuation may well reflect this.

glauber · Post by **glauber** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:17 am

The concertina might be useful. And no, you can't have the autoharp. Some things are better left in the museum,

Stu H · Post by **Stu H** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:20 am

Perhaps I have expressed myself clumsily, the value of these instruments is undeniably high, but I am asking why does that mean that they - or any 'valuable' item - have to have a high price. The price of an item is only what someone is prepared to pay for it, it is not an indication of how important it is.

For example compare the relative prices of say .... Penicillin and Diamonds and then decide which one you would rather see the world go without.

vomitbunny · Post by **vomitbunny** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:26 am

Hmp. I did'nt see ANY whistles, and he's calling the one valve bugle a one valve trumpet.
Oh, the wonders of Ebay.
I have a bushell basket of old horns and stuff I got off of ebay myself.

chattiekathy · Post by **chattiekathy** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:52 am

Maybe the square one is a whistle. It looks like it has 6 holes.

Cheers,
Kathy

glauber · Post by **glauber** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:55 am

No, i've had a couple of those. It's something they sell to tourists in Peru.

Very good wall ornaments. Usually have pictures of llamas or Aztec gods in them. The double barreled one might be a dvojanka, but if so it's a crude one.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:01 am

chattiekathy wrote:Maybe the square one is a whistle. It looks like it has 6 holes.

Cheers,
Kathy

Hey Lark- maybe you could offer something like that for your Squistle line.

Wombat · Post by **Wombat** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:28 pm

I don't collect vintage instruments and don't keep tabs on values. My guess is that the whole collection is valued at about half what you would need to pay for a violin if you aspired to being a concert soloist.

Just glancing through, my first thought was that it was not a wildly overpriced collection. There are quite a few seriously interesting guitars there and there is a huge market in vintage guitars that have driven prices for even fairly recent items right through the roof. You'd have to go through item by item to tell though.

The market for collectables is very volatile when it comes to very rare items of minority interest. For example, there might be ten collectors in the world who badly want copies of a 78 record released in the 20s and only nine known copies. The collector who is missing out might well be prepared to pay a five figure sum for the item. If one more copy is discovered you just might get that amount, especially if you manage to keep its recent discovery a secret. But suppose two more copies are discovered. Waht is the 11th copy worth? Well, on my original assumption, it is worth nowhere near a five figure amount. It will go to a much less desparate collector probably for only a few hundred dollars. But if a new collector comes along who's a big spender, back the price goes to a five figure mark.

As private collections go, this is impressive enough, but there would be numerous guitar collections worth much more than this. Almost every rock superstar—and there are now dozens of them—has a collection of guitars with a market-value way in excess of this figure, and most of the big-ticket items would only be about 40 or 50 years old.

A Columbia record executive who retired about 10 years ago after a lifetime with the company reputedly had a record collection with a quarter of a million items. A lot of those items would be worth quite a lot now. Not a bad pension scheme, eh, especially considering that he got Columbia products for nothing?