U2 wrote:Out,
- In 1963 there was not an armor-clad vehicle in use by the Secret Service to transport the president. The bubble top was used to protect occupants from precipitation only.
- JFK's life and service, and that of any president, has meaning far beyond the statement you offered regarding historical impact and usefullness of his life. I'm sure you didn't mean it the way it is worded.
- Standard security precautions were not followed by the Secret Service detail in Dallas to protect JFK. That's on them, not him. He didn't cause them to disregard their functions, nor did he cause many of them to stay out all night drinking. The resources of the Secret Service should not be compared to those of a body guard who protects a celebrity. Different scope of responsibility altogether.
- Malvo and his fellow sniper were conspirators. Osama is a conspirator. Apply consistent thought to them and you'll quickly see there are not rules for conspirators, not for assassins who work alone, not then, and not now.
- Since your Hinkley statement is speculative, it effectively demonstrates you consider speculation reasonable.
- I suggest the FBI did consider whether John Hinkley was part of a conspiracy although President Reagan lived? Do you believe otherwise?
There are facts in each of these cases that are a matter of record. Those facts are essential to reach an educated opinion. The documentaries are interesting, but they often represent a presentation of selective facts toward a particular end.
steve
- A simple hard top sedan would have made Oswald's shot a heck of a lot more difficult. From the sixth floor he probably wouldn't have had any shot at all. Any shot he would have had would have been at a very oblique angle through glass, and it's almost impossible to reliably hit a target with that kind of shot. (At an oblique angle, even when the bullet penetrates glass the trajectory is seriously, and not very precictably, skewed).
- Actually, I did mean it in exactly the way it was worded. He was a great speaker, but I've never been taken in by the Kennedy family hype and I simply don't think he was all that special -- certainly not worthy of such mass hysteria even 40 years later. I really think that serving as a wakeup call to the secret service and to future presidents may very well have been the most valuable contribution of his presidency.
- I didn't see any of those secret service boys out drinking, did you?
Even if they were, though, that proves nothing but carelessness and it certainly wouldn't be the first time that federal employees have fallen down on the job.
- As for Malvo and his buddy, I said
organized conspirators. Malvo and Muhamed were clever, but I'd hardly call them organized. They were also not going after a protected target, so trying to use them to refute what I said about conspirators going after protected targets is simply silly.
- My Hinkley statement was
humorous, proving only that I consider such speculation humorous.
- I'm sure that the authorities did
initially consider that Hinkley might be part of a conspiracy. My point was that if Reagan had died it wouldn't matter that Hinkley was a certifiable wacko acting alone in a twisted attempt to impress an actress, because there would be money to be made by pushing conspiracy theories.
