I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

The Chiff & Fipple Irish Flute on-line community. Sideblown for your protection.
Ballygo
Posts: 279
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:29 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 12

I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by Ballygo »

Anyone know a good way to seal a tone hole normally occupied by the long F key. Im having the key extended to make it easier to access. I just put some tape over it for now, but Im concerned it will allow air to escape. Any ideas ?

Ballygo.
User avatar
tsackett
Posts: 106
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:57 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 12

Re: I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by tsackett »

The preferred method seems to be plugging it with the sticky putty used to put posters up on interior walls. One common brand is Blu-Tack. It works well because it seals uneven surfaces well, stays in place, and comes off easily.

However, I've only used it for short-term blocking. It's possible that the adhesive might migrate a bit if left on for many days in a row.
User avatar
MTGuru
Posts: 18663
Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:45 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Location: San Diego, CA

Re: I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by MTGuru »

Brian Finnegan uses raisins.

Seriously ... He had a key-stripped flute that played perfectly well, and didn't discover until some time later that the previous owner had plugged it with raisins/sultanas.

So maybe we can discuss the merits of various dried fruits. :lol:
Vivat diabolus in musica! MTGuru's (old) GG Clips / Blackbird Clips

Joel Barish: Is there any risk of brain damage?
Dr. Mierzwiak: Well, technically speaking, the procedure is brain damage.
User avatar
benhall.1
Moderator
Posts: 14816
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:21 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Tell us something.: I'm a fiddler and, latterly, a fluter. I love the flute. I wish I'd always played it. I love the whistle as well. I'm blessed in having really lovely instruments for all of my musical interests.
Location: Unimportant island off the great mainland of Europe

Re: I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by benhall.1 »

Prunes. For that honking low D. :twisted:
User avatar
Sillydill
Posts: 964
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:33 pm
Please enter the next number in sequence: 1
Location: Edge of Misery (Missouri) KC area

Re: I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by Sillydill »

benhall.1 :tomato:

At least you didn't offer that solution on the thread: "clean out tone holes and embouchure hole?"


Seriously: I have used hot-melt glue to temp. fill holes. Doesn't really stick to a oiled flute and can be simply pushed out later.
Keep on Tootin!

Jordan
User avatar
s1m0n
Posts: 10069
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2004 12:17 am
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 10
Location: The Inside Passage

Re: I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by s1m0n »

benhall.1 wrote:Prunes. For that honking low D.
Bravo.
And now there was no doubt that the trees were really moving - moving in and out through one another as if in a complicated country dance. ('And I suppose,' thought Lucy, 'when trees dance, it must be a very, very country dance indeed.')

C.S. Lewis
jim stone
Posts: 17192
Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2001 6:00 pm

Re: I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by jim stone »

Ballygo wrote:Anyone know a good way to seal a tone hole normally occupied by the long F key. Im having the key extended to make it easier to access. I just put some tape over it for now, but Im concerned it will allow air to escape. Any ideas ?

Ballygo.
I really see nothing the matter with tape. Done right I can see no reason why it
shouldn't plug the hole fine. And it's minimally invasive. This is temporary.
User avatar
smoro
Posts: 309
Joined: Sun Nov 24, 2002 6:00 pm
Please enter the next number in sequence: 1
Location: Sevilla, Spain
Contact:

Re: I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by smoro »

Wax is used for this purpose with success.
S.
User avatar
jemtheflute
Posts: 6969
Joined: Tue May 23, 2006 6:47 am
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Location: N.E. Wales, G.B.
Contact:

Re: I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by jemtheflute »

Electrical tape will usually make a good seal, though tends to leave a gluey residue which has to be cleaned off after removal (not a big deal). Ditto gaffer/duct tape. Blu-tack is fine and is what I'd probably use. I wouldn't use wax of any kind for a temporary job like this - more awkward to clean away properly.
I respect people's privilege to hold their beliefs, whatever those may be (within reason), but respect the beliefs themselves? You gotta be kidding!

My YouTube channel
My FB photo albums
Low Bb flute: 2 reels (audio)
Flute & Music Resources - helpsheet downloads
User avatar
Denny
Posts: 24005
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:29 am
antispam: No
Location: N of Seattle

Re: I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by Denny »

So chewing gum has gone out of favor?



I so can not keep up with all the new fads... :tomato:
Picture a bright blue ball just spinning, spinning free
It's dizzying, the possibilities. Ashes, Ashes all fall down.
User avatar
woodfluter
Posts: 117
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:26 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 12
Location: Georgia

Re: I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by woodfluter »

Denny wrote:So chewing gum has gone out of favor?
No, that's out of flavor and you have to put it on the bedpost overnight.
(sorry...)

On a more serious note, my local Ace Hardware store sells black rubber stoppers in a wide range of sizes, including tiny. If it were me, I'd get one of those and trim off one or both ends so that it would fit snugly into the hole...for now. It's easy to extract and there's no residue to clean off, and it's black too so it blends right in.

Long ago I messed around extensively with a (presumably German) blackwood 8-key high pitch flute. I converted it to 5 keys, filling in the holes with ebony plugs epoxied into place. Irreversible but tidy. (It now hovers around Eb, but with quirks.)
Ballygo
Posts: 279
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:29 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 12

Re: I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by Ballygo »

Thanks for that. I`ll try the electric tape.

best

Ballygo.
User avatar
Denny
Posts: 24005
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:29 am
antispam: No
Location: N of Seattle

Re: I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by Denny »

woodfluter wrote:
Denny wrote:So chewing gum has gone out of favor?
No, that's out of flavor and you have to put it on the bedpost overnight.
(sorry...)
well, no wonder it hasn't any flavor then.

lucky it's still there, damn cat searches for odd things to bother all night, she does :really:
Picture a bright blue ball just spinning, spinning free
It's dizzying, the possibilities. Ashes, Ashes all fall down.
User avatar
Doug_Tipple
Posts: 3829
Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:49 pm
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 10
Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
Contact:

Re: I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by Doug_Tipple »

If it were me, I wouldn't mess around with the half-measures that others have mentioned, such as electrical tape or blue tack or "whatever" ( I hope you know the hand signs for "whatever"). Dum-dum putty is what you need to use, at least that is what my dad called it in the auto body shop. The closest thing that I can find to genuine dum-dum, or is it dumb-dumb, is mastic that is used for sealing doors and windows. It usually comes in strips in the home improvement stores. It stays pliable and is thus easy to mold into the right shape. Of course if you want a more permanent hole plug, I have a coal-black two-part epoxy that starts out as a putty that you can mold with your hands, which within a few hours turns quite hard. As I said before, be careful not to listen too attentively to the quick-fix artists on this board.
User avatar
jemtheflute
Posts: 6969
Joined: Tue May 23, 2006 6:47 am
antispam: No
Please enter the next number in sequence: 8
Location: N.E. Wales, G.B.
Contact:

Re: I need to block a tone hole, advice needed.

Post by jemtheflute »

But Doug, he wants a quick, temporary but reliable fix! If he wanted a long-term or permanent fix, I'd agree with you/some of the other up-thread suggestions - e.g. hard wax, rubber bung or cork cut to shape, Miliput (epoxy putty). But it's just while the key is being custom-adapted - a few days, weeks at most and the key will be back and refitted.
I respect people's privilege to hold their beliefs, whatever those may be (within reason), but respect the beliefs themselves? You gotta be kidding!

My YouTube channel
My FB photo albums
Low Bb flute: 2 reels (audio)
Flute & Music Resources - helpsheet downloads
Post Reply