The purest sounding high-ender

nickt · Post by **nickt** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 8:14 am

Not that some of the other polls haven't been useful, but hey...

Let's use the poll system as well to gather info on whistles, so each time a newbie says something like "I'm looking for a quiet chiffy high ender", we have a poll recorded to which they can refer.

So here's a start: the purest whistle you've played (next can be breathiest, loudest, whatever). Dixon and Susato (for which you may wish to vote) are not in as high-enders (it's a high-enders only poll given the £$£$ outlay for a newbie).

If I've left any off there's a limit to poll options.

nickt · Post by **nickt** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 8:24 am

Doh! Went wrong somewhere entering the poll options! I think it'll still work though

dlambert · Post by **dlambert** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 8:30 am

just get a Sindt and be done with the whole thing.

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 8:37 am

It was a tough choice, between Burke and Burke, but after careful thought I chose Burke over Burke. I think I made the right choice....if I change my mind later, can I come back and change it to Burke?

nickt · Post by **nickt** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 8:43 am

dlambert wrote:just get a Sindt and be done with the whole thing.

Without doubt Sindt was the least pure of all these that I've played - which is why the poll is a good idea!

Feadan · Post by **Feadan** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 8:45 am

Why is everything listed twice? And why is Silkstone not included in this list? IMHO, it should be. Are radio buttons are the only option for polls? I would certainly want to choose more than one whistle in your list. The purest/cleanest sounding makes I have tried would start with my 10+ year old Copeland (I have found few recent models that come close)followed by Sindt, Burke, & Silkstone (not necessarily in that order).

Cheers,
David

P.S. Also recently tried a new model Sweet whistle apparently designed by Ralph's son Walt(?). It by lightyears exceeds the quality of old model Sweet whistles in it's pure sound and excellent responsiveness.

Jens_Hoppe · Post by **Jens_Hoppe** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 8:46 am

Purest whistles I've tried? Hoover narrow bore, and my Laughing Whistle. None of them are in the poll...

Jens

FJohnSharp · Post by **FJohnSharp** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 8:59 am

Water Weasel is here but no thin Weasel? What about the Busman? I heard one the other day and it was sweet.

I must confess to having never played any of the ones on the list. I have a Hoover and it's darned sweet.

Zubivka · Post by **Zubivka** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 9:04 am

The purest I heard was a Swayne, not played by me.
So pure I thought it was kinda high-end, er--no offense intended!--recorder .
And I still wonder :roll:

One problem with such a form of poll is that the rarest whistles are doomed to have less votes, even if 100% of their owners believe them to be The Purest.

nickt · Post by **nickt** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:35 am

Feadan wrote:Why is everything listed twice? And why is Silkstone not included in this list? IMHO, it should be. Are radio buttons are the only option for polls? I would certainly want to choose more than one whistle in your list. The purest/cleanest sounding makes I have tried would start with my 10+ year old Copeland (I have found few recent models that come close)followed by Sindt, Burke, & Silkstone (not necessarily in that order).

Cheers,
David

Everything's listed twice because I screwed up when I started the poll as explained above!

Regarding the makes not mentioned, they WERE included, but there's a limit to the poll options - I had to keep deleting them one by one till it was accepted. Maybe Rich can increase the amount of poll options?

Zub - Jon Swayne was a r******r maker originally - that should explain it!

PhilO · Post by **PhilO** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 11:01 am

I'm not even sure what you mean by "pure" and whether that's a positive or negative aspect. Some people seem to mean "sweet" or "rich" or without overtones, and some have noted whistles as pure as a positive that I find tonally boring and a negative. That said, are you excluding wood here? I'd also think that two notable high enders with solid high ends are Grinters and O'Briain lows.

I guess I'm just no fun to poll with...

I think though that my O'Riordan Low G is pure in the most positive and interesting way, so I'll vote O'Riordan (Traveler - aluminum).

Regards,

Philo

vaporlock · Post by **vaporlock** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 12:03 pm

blackhawk wrote:It was a tough choice, between Burke and Burke, but after careful thought I chose Burke over Burke. I think I made the right choice....if I change my mind later, can I come back and change it to Burke?

I'm afraid that I have to respectfuly disagree with you, Blackhawk. Answers like that are typical from people with limited exposure to quality whistles. Clearly, the proper response to the poll should be Burke, not Burke. What were you thinking?

nickt · Post by **nickt** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 12:08 pm

PhilO wrote:I'm not even sure what you mean by "pure" and whether that's a positive or negative aspect. Some people seem to mean "sweet" or "rich" or without overtones, and some have noted whistles as pure as a positive that I find tonally boring and a negative. That said, are you excluding wood here? I'd also think that two notable high enders with solid high ends are Grinters and O'Briain lows.

Philo

By "pure" I mean no extra sounds of hissing air, overtones, etc - just the note itself (as you tend to get with a quality r******r, but with a whistle sound. Neither neg nor pos, just a "sound"). Sadly, Grinters and O'Briains were on the list but got deleted as not enough space (I've mailed Rich to see if he can help).

elendil · Post by **elendil** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 12:55 pm

dittos to everything feadan said, especially re the new sweetheart. if anyone cares to do a search (i got flamed for ignoring the search function and am now holier than the next whistler forum messager), tyghress has a thread on the subject which includes three-count-em-three good quality mp3's comparing the new sweetheart, burke, thin weasel, and overton (i think). it should be an eye/ear opener for anyone who has heard old sweets but not this new one. the new one is a northern birch/phenolic resin laminate, that should have the care characteristics of a polymer, but some of the sound qualities of very good quality wood. a slightly conical bore, dead accurate intonation throughout its very good range, and very pre sound.

Ridseard · Post by **Ridseard** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 1:07 pm

nickt wrote: By "pure" I mean no extra sounds of hissing air, overtones, etc - just the note itself (as you tend to get with a quality r******r, but with a whistle sound.

It is the harmonic overtones which make a whistle sound like a whistle.

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