Ç’est Si Bon
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I was wondering what direction this would take after Tubie's latest post this morning.
Primarily, insults of cowardice are pretty much taboo, in my book. But I thought, well, people will fight it out without me.
But I am tired of the Bush-bashing and the insistence on Continental intellectual superiority that I have witnessed in my life and travels. Two wrongs don't make a right, tho. Much of the elitism on the part of the continentals was very much tied to our protection during the Iron Curtain days. THink of how many Americans have served in West Germany for all those years. My experiences in Italy led me to believe that our strength and influence (and actual military presence) was very much resented, but the same presence propped up a lot of socialist regimes in those countries by providing military substitution of federal costs of those countries.
It was posited this morning that the only thing the French (and possibly Germans) fear from this upcoming conflict is that their very recent business dealings with Iraq will be revealed in captured documents. i don't know if its true or not.
We in the US are somewhat ashamed of our association with Iraq in the past, especially Rumsfeld himself, but at one time, the Ayatollah was the Big Enemy so it made sense at the time. But it may be revealed that our "friends" have been doing business with the President for Life and world focus may shift and change against the "peace-loving" nations.
But when I think of Zoob and his sidearm, and I think of the French Resistance during WW2, I cannot laugh along at these jibes, despite my proclivity to write Froooooonch on the Chatline. Too much blood has been spilled there.
Best wishes to mes amis Françaises (sorry for mangling).
Le Weeque (the silly Americain).
PS Bloomfield started it.
Primarily, insults of cowardice are pretty much taboo, in my book. But I thought, well, people will fight it out without me.
But I am tired of the Bush-bashing and the insistence on Continental intellectual superiority that I have witnessed in my life and travels. Two wrongs don't make a right, tho. Much of the elitism on the part of the continentals was very much tied to our protection during the Iron Curtain days. THink of how many Americans have served in West Germany for all those years. My experiences in Italy led me to believe that our strength and influence (and actual military presence) was very much resented, but the same presence propped up a lot of socialist regimes in those countries by providing military substitution of federal costs of those countries.
It was posited this morning that the only thing the French (and possibly Germans) fear from this upcoming conflict is that their very recent business dealings with Iraq will be revealed in captured documents. i don't know if its true or not.
We in the US are somewhat ashamed of our association with Iraq in the past, especially Rumsfeld himself, but at one time, the Ayatollah was the Big Enemy so it made sense at the time. But it may be revealed that our "friends" have been doing business with the President for Life and world focus may shift and change against the "peace-loving" nations.
But when I think of Zoob and his sidearm, and I think of the French Resistance during WW2, I cannot laugh along at these jibes, despite my proclivity to write Froooooonch on the Chatline. Too much blood has been spilled there.
Best wishes to mes amis Françaises (sorry for mangling).
Le Weeque (the silly Americain).
PS Bloomfield started it.
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<center><img src="http://images2.fotki.com/v18/free/ddb4/ ... 1046381850">On 2003-02-27 16:25, TubeDude wrote:
This whole thing is too darned serious!
It must have worked on me!On 2003-02-27 16:38, Kim in Tulsa wrote:<center><img src="http://images2.fotki.com/v18/free/ddb4/ ... 1046381850">On 2003-02-27 16:25, TubeDude wrote:
This whole thing is too darned serious!
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First, Americans probably tell more American jokes than they do French jokes. (Of course, these are usually more specific -- Vermont jokes, Texas jokes, New Yorker jokes. Like, this New Yorker is on vacation in Vermont, and she's waiting for the bus with her poodle. The bus driver stops and says, "No dogs on this bus, ma'am," to which she responds, "I take the bus with my poodle all the time in New York." Of course, he says, "sorry ma'am, this is Vermont, not New York," and she says, "Well you know what you can do with your bus!" He responds, "Ayuh, if you do that with your poodle, you can ride the bus.")On 2003-02-27 14:18, claudine wrote:
Believe it nor not, Europeans know lots of jokes about Americans too.
First, I don't know what you think our government is telling us, but it's sure as hell not telling us to hate France or the French. If anything, it's telling us to hate Saddam Hussein, not even Iraq or the Iraquis. Second, what makes you think we hate France or the French? A few jokes? I'm not defending what's been posted here, but it has been only one or two people who don't speak for most Americans, and I don't take it as evidence of hatred.You are being manipulated by your government's propaganda and now you hate a country that most of you certainly don't know. And why do you concentrate your hate on France?
I'm not entirely in favor of the American policy. Even if I were, I'd laugh at any funny American jokes you posted rather than take offense.There are actually strong anti-american feelings here, but I always try to resist them because I know America is more than just a few narrow-minded fascists.
To add to what one person has already posted, not only was the US grateful to the French for their aid in the revolution, there are a LOT of people of French extraction in the US, and still pockets of French-speakers (in Maine and possibly Louisiana). I know because I'm one of them and have lived in a largely French-speaking town.
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I'm afraid we'll have to boycott yogurt, too.
No more la yogurt.
No french manicures.
No more french dips . . .but what do I care, I'm a vegetarian.
Still . . .
No french roast coffee.
No Pepe La Pew.
What a sad world we live in.
No more la yogurt.
No french manicures.
No more french dips . . .but what do I care, I'm a vegetarian.
Still . . .
No french roast coffee.
No Pepe La Pew.
What a sad world we live in.
I sing the birdie tune
It makes the birdies swoon
It sends them to the moon
Just like a big balloon
It makes the birdies swoon
It sends them to the moon
Just like a big balloon
Pepe's Canadian - skunks are NEW WORLD animals!On 2003-02-27 19:09, bdatki wrote:
We could still have Pepe, after all, the Warner Brother's weren't French!
And I work with a lot of French Canadian guys, including one whose accent and attitude are a perfect match for Pepe's. A great guy as long as he doesn't get too close to my daughters . . .
On the more serious stuff - who hates the French (or the rest of the Europeans?). I certainly don't. And I'm not certain we should have maneuvered ourselves into the situation we are in vis-a-vis Iraq.
But I still suspect the prevailing European opinion regarding the whole sticky situation, though couched in terms of morality, is at least as strongly motivated by self-interest and Not-In-My-Backyard, with a strong dash of "If I ignore it, maybe it'll go away."
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God bless America.
God bless France.
God bless New Zealand.
God bless Ireland.
God bless Mexico.
God bless England.
God bless Cambodia.
God bless Mindanao.
God bless Nigeria.
God bless Brazil.
God bless Iraq.
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May peace and goodwill reign o'er all the nations of the earth.
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God bless France.
God bless New Zealand.
God bless Ireland.
God bless Mexico.
God bless England.
God bless Cambodia.
God bless Mindanao.
God bless Nigeria.
God bless Brazil.
God bless Iraq.
God bless Luxembourg.
God bless Wollongong and all of Australia.
God bless Israel.
God bless Denmark.
God bless Canada.
God bless China.
God bless Afghanistan.
God bless India.
God bless Switzerland.
God bless Fiji.
God bless Scotland.
God bless the Navajo Nation.
May peace and goodwill reign o'er all the nations of the earth.
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