Rolling Wave jig: what are you?

[benhall.1]

Ah sure, the fiddles. Perhaps a case of: if you've got it (sharp 7th), flaunt it. And/or the art music tendency in some periods to majorize things.

I don't know. It's true that I love it with sharp Cs. At least one time through, I like to play an open D drone loudly while playing those C#s. Great.

[MTGuru]

I am here to confirm that tommykleen indeed plays a true 9/8 version of this tune.

I'm still trying to imagine. Maybe something like this?

|FEF DAd cAG|FEF DAF GFE|FEF DAd cAG|FAF GBG AGE:|
|D2d cAd cAG|F2d cAG AGE|D2d cde fdA|FAF GBG AGE:|

[tommykleen]

I'll post a clip somewhere.

t

[Nanohedron]

I am here to confirm that tommykleen indeed plays a true 9/8 version of this tune.

I'm still trying to imagine. Maybe something like this?

|FEF DAd cAG|FEF DAF GFE|FEF DAd cAG|FAF GBG AGE:|
|D2d cAd cAG|F2d cAG AGE|D2d cde fdA|FAF GBG AGE:|

I don't think that was it. But whatever it was, it was mystifying, and a bewitchery. Tom? Would you be so good as to offer us some ABCs or dots?

[EDIT: Crosspost w/ Mr. Kleen.]

[tommykleen]

I am here to confirm that tommykleen indeed plays a true 9/8 version of this tune.

I'm still trying to imagine. Maybe something like this?

|FEF DAd cAG|FEF DAF GFE|FEF DAd cAG|FAF GBG AGE:|
|D2d cAd cAG|F2d cAG AGE|D2d cde fdA|FAF GBG AGE:|

Here's a quick-and-dirty-pre-coffee-6:00am-one-off of this tune.

tommykleen

[NicoMoreno]

Your link takes us to the log-in page, Mister Kleen. (I've always wanted to write that!)

I think it might need to be set to public?

[hans]

Tommy, you need to get a public url for your file. Click the "Share" link besides your file, then copy the link provided.

[tommykleen]

Link should work now. Thanks!

t

[MTGuru]

|FEF DAd cAG|FEF DAF GFE|FEF DAd cAG|FAF GBG AGE:|
|D2d cAd cAG|F2d cAG AGE|D2d cde fdA|FAF GBG AGE:|

Here's a quick-and-dirty-pre-coffee-6:00am-one-off

Aha, yes, exactly what I was imagining. My ABC is a variant setting of yours. Minus the lovely morning pipering, of course.

It's fun to rework tunes into different tune types. The process of working out what is essential to the identity of a tune when it's rhythmically transformed can be very instructive..

Thanks, Mr. Kleen!

[pancelticpiper]

[ Thread revival. - Mod ]

Séamus Ennis (in his notes for one of the Clancy recordings) suggested it switches from 6/8 , 9/8 and 3/8

To me the practice of moving the bar lines around to match someone's perception of where the accent falls is a needless complication.

Staying in 6/8; alternating between 6/8 and 9/8 and 3/8; or writing the whole thing in 12/8... these are rather artificial distinctions which only change how the tune looks on paper, not how it sounds.

Now, on an early flute recording from the teens or 20s, there's an extremely interesting rythm going on with a slip jig, one part being the normal Irish

9/8 = 3+3+3

But the other part sounding like the Bulgarian

9/8 = 2+2+2+3

Were I to transcribe it, I would stay in 9/8 but I would group the notes differently to reflect the rythm of the tune.

This same rythmic shift can be heard in one of the Northumbrian Smallpipe 9/8 jigs.