What's the chances ....

I’ll ever find an affordable Copeland low D whistle again? :slight_smile:

Well I suppose I should continue to suffer due to my own decision to flog mine.

The next best question then: what else is out there in the market which is close to the character of the Copeland?

I’ve tried Howards, Dixons, Susatos, Chieftains, and Shaws. These are all quite different.

Is there anything else in the market over the past few years which isn’t as difficult to acquire?

Thanks :slight_smile:

Some players think the John Sindt is very similar to the Copeland.

(sorry for my english)

But I don’t think that John Sindt makes a low D.

And anyway, comparing the Copeland high D and Sindt high D … I can hardly think of two whistles that are less alike in every respect. :astonished:

depends on what your definition of affordable is? Michael makes terrific whistles and I feel they are quite unique at this point. THey really aren’t overly expensive as professional* instruments go, IMO. You could try making your own and then see what you are up against. Maybe the Copeland would seem more affordable then. :slight_smile:

There are other very good low D whistles on the market but I fear none are quite like Copeland’s. Have you tried a Kerry Pro, Burke Viper, Goldie or an MK?

I gotta agree with the MTGuru, while both are well made whistles they are at opposite ends of the spectrum in most regards.

Feadoggie

* whatever that means

It’s not looking good is it.

Copeland is making his high pitch whistle I gather. Are the low D whistles still in production?

I’ve been loosely keeping an eye out just out of curiosity and I haven’t seen him put one up for sale since he started selling again.

What do you mean production? It’s just Michael making whistles in his home shop at this point! Why don’t you contact the man and see what he says.

I play one of Copeland’s ultimate low D’s in blackwood and slilver, very flute-like sound too. Talk to him.

Feadoggie

I dunno.

I get the impression that he’s so busy that he wouldn’t have time. Plus I feel guilty as it is for letting go of mine.

Home production is best anyways. :slight_smile:

I want one of his high Ds in sterling. Can’t seem to get one … Just sayin’ …

http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/27721

$645???!!! :confused: :confused: :confused:

Has he given up on the stock exchange?

At that price, I’d rather buy a proper Irish flute, rather than a whistle that sounds like a flute :frowning:


What I liked about the Copelands was their sound … and it didn’t reach the stratospheric collectors market like it has now. I didn’t pay 1/4 of the used asking price. For a 17 year old flute, the mileage in getting a low D Copeland looks like it’s collectors’ mileage rather than players mileage :frowning:

Part of the Copeland sound is the conical bore, so you may want to look into the Sweetheart Low D’s. I have one, and love it’s flute-like characteristics.

Yes - I was looking at one of those. .. and the Mark Hazo (sp?) ones from Australia too.

It’s hard to tell from his youtube clips - in his own words - he is a flute maker, not a player, so it’s hard to guage from his playing on the clips, what the sound quality is like.

The other thing … is youtube it tends to equalize everything onto a flat playing field. I’m rather spoilt and I always try to test out instruments before buying. When I have bought various whistles (including Howards - what a disappointment) - I’ve regretted it.

heavy

As in “heavy, man”? Or, as in “those are physically rather heavy whistles”?

Four times the weight of aluminium, or about 200g for a C whistle. The silver price has also about doubled since I enquired about silver tube prices a year ago, so my estimate for a C whistle is about £400.

So it has. Still. Despite the recent dramatic falls in price. (It had gone up to at least three times what it was a year ago.) So, there’s about £150 of silver in that? £200? Or have I got my sums wrong? I’m going by commodity market quoted prices, but I’m not sure how possible it is to buy at that sort of price. :confused:

About £250 I reckon, in a whistle with 16mm tubing and 1mm wall thickness. That is extrapolated from the quote I got a year ago. It is based on fine silver price, sterling silver for jewellers. It would have been a good investment if I had bought the tubing a year ago!

Ah, wait a minute. I took no account of duties, waste in manufacture … probably some other things … Those sort of things would bump my price estimate up …

I would think that is a fair price these days. If I had the spare cash, I’d jump on that one. Granted it is a lot of money but if that is the instrument you want, need, crave then it is a small price. And you would be hard pressed to find a “proper Irish flute” at that price anyway, IMO. I’ve played Michael’s whistles for a long time now(a Philly boy, ya know), and yes they were more affordable once, but they sound and play like no other whistle I’ve tried so if you want one… Seems to me most prices have been going up over the years.

Feadoggie