Opinions on Generation Whistles

Hello,

What is everyone’s opinion on Generation penny whistles? I’m thinking about getting my friend a set that comes with one whistle of each key that runs about 27 bucks (a shade under 5 dollars per whistle). The person I’m buying for isn’t a whistle player to the best of my knowledge, but does play multiple instruments and is a huge fan of Celtic music, so I thought it would make a nice Christmas gift. How do Generations compare with other whistles in their price range? It seems to be consensus on this board that the Clark Sweetone is the best inexpensive (sub 10 dollar) whistle out there, but Clarke doesn’t offer a kit with each key like Generation does. Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Mike

Uh-oh, can-of-worms time (again). :slight_smile:

Here, I’ll open mine first:

Sweetone: Very easy to play, so (sort of) recommended for beginning wind-instrument players who have no idea what they’re doing. Unfortunately, they are not very well in tune and sound sort of toy-like.

Generation: Harder to play (ie. requires better control of fingers and breath), but sound like “real” whistles.

I’m outta here.

:slight_smile:

Jens

Rather than talk about my opinion, let me tell you my experiences:

I’ve bought 12 brass gens over the last six years. Of those, 2 were in tune. Many of them are so horribly out of tune that they are the whistles I let my 1 year old son bang around, since he always wants a whistle when I’m practicing. I figure, if he destroys them, I’ve lost nothing.

During that same time, I bought 3 sweetones. All 3 were in tune. Three, because I broke one (back-pocket graveyard) and so bought 2 more–1 for backup. This a few years ago, and my sweetones (one unpainted) have not rusted, so I’m not sure what those other guys are doing to their whistles. :wink:

I’ve very recently started hearing the claim that Sweetones ‘sound like a toy’, without any explanation as to what that means exactly. I own a Trophy brand toy tinwhistle (at $1.95!), and it doesn’t sound anything like the sweetone, though the ‘toy’ is more in tune than 6 of my brass generations. My own experience is that at the Irish sessions I play at, the sound of my sweetone has been complimented twice.

When I first started playing whistles, I had mini-WhOA going..I’d bought clarke traditionals, a shaw, feadogs, and waltons, all in search of the ‘perfect’ whistle. When I bought a sweetone, as still a relative beginner, I was so pleased with it’s sound and playability that it stopped my WhOA for a good two years. I went from sweetones to ‘high-end’ instruments such as silkstones and thin weasels.

Also, I’ve also bought about 4 different nickel generations in various keys. They seem to be better in tune right out of the box than the brass ones, though they do feel 'slippery’ish in the hands. So, if you have your heart set on a set of gens, I’d personally suggest nickel, as your chances of getting good ones seems to be better.

Greg

Hrmm.. this topic has been discussed a few weeks ago pretty extensively so you might also like to use “search” to find what everyone has said.

LittleCeasar:

Click on this link to go to this topic on the board that we discussed the past few weeks. There is a lot of material but worth the time :slight_smile:

http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php?topic=1680&forum=1&67

Enjoy!

On 2001-12-17 05:45, Wandering_Whistler wrote:

I’ve very recently started hearing the claim that Sweetones ‘sound like a toy’, without any explanation as to what that means exactly.

I was going to keep out of this but as this something I said I’ll clarify:

I actually said like a cheap toy, implying tone and tuning don’t seem the first things taken care of in designing and manufacturing it. I also said my judgement was based on a C I had handy and a brief spell owning a D I had long since given away.

The C was really extremely out of tune both within the scale of the octave as well as between octaves. The seam which is folded into the instrument itself causes a lot of upset in the vibration of the air column and doesn’t make for a nice tone. That’s about what it meant. I don’t like them very much.





[ This Message was edited by: Peter Laban on 2001-12-17 11:17 ]

I also like the Sweetone C less well
than the D. But I do like the D
quite a bit. As with virtually
every other whistle some people
like the tone, some don’t. So, while
some find the tone the musical
equivalent of bubble gum, I make
recordings with Sweetones. At 6 bucks
a pop, well, it’s easy enough to
see for oneself. Buying your friend
whistles in all those keys may be
less helpful than one or two good
D whistles, or a D and a C–which
is the best way to start out, I
think.

Yeah, Generations can be iffy, but…

I think it would be cool to get a whole set as a gift. :smiley:

Gift-wise (is that a word?), I think the set has a certain effect. But then, you know the person you are buying for!

Good Luck!
Bill

my mother got me a brass set for x-mas. they are presently sitting under the xmas tree, but when I finally have them, I’ll tell you what I think…

I don’t own a Generation or a Sweetone, so I can’t really comment on that but I’d have to say that jim’s got a point…it would be better to get your friend a few good D or C whistles. That way they can see which maker they think is best (since it seems everyone’s got a different opinion on the matter). If you do decide to do that, I recommend the Acorn as a good begining whistle. It was my first and hasn’t caused me any problems (yet). Good luck.

Ya know, I really need to try the Acorn.
I’ve seen them go by, picked one up and
played it briefly, liked it, then forgot
about it. Strikes me as a good suggestion.