Newbie practice routine?

So, a few weeks in and I can go through some tunes well enough to encourage me to keep going. The more I play the more I want to play, but time factors in a bit. I’m working 16 hours a day and trying to do side work on the weekends, so time is quite precious. I’d love to practice a couple hours a day, but reality won’t allow.

I was sitting here wondering, for a new guy, still only able to get through a tune by looking at the tabs in a starter book, what would you do for practice if you had a half hour or an hour a day. I can usually get in 2-4 15 minute breaks during the day and some days a half hour stretch and a couple 15s.

How much time would you give to what, what is the thing to focus on at this point? Please help me optimize my practice.

(and for the record, I’ve read hundreds or more posts, just never came across one that outlined it really well)


Side note, started with a SweetTone D on impulse for Christmas, picked up a Walton (Guinness, but same as little black D) and liked them, my nickle Dixon Trad came in yesterday and I thought it was broken… played it the same and it started in the second octave :slight_smile: WOW, that thing uses like NO air to get a loud, clean, crisp sound. I LOVE the thing.

Trip

There is an interview with Joanie Madden where she is quoted as saying:

To all of you just starting out, I recommend that you listen to the best players and hang in there. If you practice just 15 minutes a day, the improvement in a year will mystify you.

I believe it to be good advice (you can read the full interview by Dale Wisely here: http://www.chiffandfipple.com/joanie.html)

If you are not yet familiar with Joanie Madden, you can listen to here playing on youbute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U38yE_ApLV4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmQC7oPxujs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H9aIrs3ZsI

Welcome Trip,

You’ve come to the right place. As one who is not that far removed from newbie status (not quite 3 years) and whose practice situation is not all that different from yours, I’ll tell what worked for me, and didn’t. Some of the more experienced will add to this I’m sure and may have differing views. This is what keeps this board so lively and fun IMHO.

First, get one whistle that is in tune with itself and the world and make that one the only one you play at first since you don’t want to deal with the idiosyncrasies of different whistles at this stage. What I mean by that is beg or borrow a tuner, or find a web based one, to insure that when you play a D it is indeed a D and that you can control the flatness or sharpness comfortably with your breath or by moving the head or tuning slide if available. Then make sure that each note in the first two octaves is in relative tune with the bell note (D) and which ones you have to blow harder or softer to attain. Make sure you warm the whistle, (mainly the head until you get to low whistles which may require more warming) before playing by blowing a few times through the head with the window covered or hold the head in your hand or under your arm to warm it.

Choose three tunes, one each designed to play slow, medium and fast. Do not try embellishments or ornamentation such as slides, cuts, rolls etc. until you can play the tunes through without mistakes. Break down the tunes into parts so that you can practice in short intervals. It is much easier to learn short passages perfectly, then join them together to make a complete tune. Then finally begin to add your own personal ornamentation. This practice will make you solid with your fingering technique.

The most difficult thing to learn will be breath control. As you noted with the whistle that started off in the second octave, this will be the biggest difference between instruments. Practice each note slowly by starting off blowing as softly as possible then gradually increasing pressure until the whistle jumps to the next octave and remember there are three of them possible (though the third is rarely used and may sterilize cats in the vicinity). This practice will be of tremendous help when you want to convey emotion in your playing and will be essential to play in tune without missing notes. You should try to play without tonguing except where a note requires same or for emphasis. You will discover that on some notes and some whistles you will want tonguing to quickly change notes since some instruments are more responsive than others and not always on the same notes.

If I were to have 15 minutes, I’d spend it on one tune by working on the individual parts. Play them slowly through at first, then increase speed to the point where mistakes creep in. Practice just below this point on fast tunes. As you gain experience, practice at the final speed intended before beginning to add ornamentation. Then you may need to slow down again until these changes come automatic. I always start off any practice with a couple of scales, then a few intervals (thirds, fourths, fifths, up and down) which should take no more than two or three minutes at most. Scales are not a waste of time but I wouldn’t put much emphasis at all on them other than to help get used to the instrument and in the beginning they will help you learn to quickly make transitions.

And spend a lot of time listening to the pros on videos and recordings. It is amazing how much this will help. Also, although the tabs are sexy, they will eventually slow you down and are often wrong or incomplete.

There’s a lot more but this is how I started and it seems to have worked out very well. I could hold my own in sessions and when playing with other musicians after about a year with this routine.

Keep us up to date on your progress.

ecohawk

Thanks, helpful info for sure!

I’m mainly trying to figure out what to practice during those 15 minute sessions, the music I have on when I’m out working in the shop, or doing routine tasks in the office, or when the kids are allowed to use the livingroom TV for their video games I don’t want to listen to :slight_smile:

I have a few tunes I’ve been working through as I mentioned, and a couple more I want to, so that advice works out great. Just no more twinkle twinkle and Mary’s lamb stuff. Nails on a chalkboard those are.

I do have a tuner, oddly, the Trad sounded a bit off, and the head was quite loose, it was playing quite sharp. I adjusted it and hit D square on, but the second octave fell slightly flat. Thinking it’s just between, I’ll have to move it around and play with breathing a bit to get it right on, though I like the sound out of it better than the other two, so even though it may be a touch trickier to get dead on, I think it’ll be worth it.

As a fellow beginner I don’t have any good advice, but wanted to thank Folk312 for posting the inspirational quote and amazing videos from Joanie Madden.

It’s such a joy to listen to her. :heart:

I started out three years ago with three books:
Bill Ochs - The Clarke Tin Whistle (http://www.amazon.com/Clarke-Tin-Whistle-Deluxe-Book/dp/0962345679/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1327434180&sr=1-1)
Grey Larsen - The Essential Tin Whistle Toolbox (http://www.greylarsen.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=26)
Claire McKenna - Ireland’s Best Tin Whistle Tunes (http://www.amazon.com/Irelands-Whistle-Guitar-Chords-Collection/dp/185720106X/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1327434213&sr=1-2)

I like all three books, and can recommend every one of the. Claire McKenna’s tune book I still use today.
If I had only 15min. to practice, I would one day practice the tunes in the Bill Ochs book and the next day work on the exercises in Grey Larsen’s book. That is how I started (although for more than 15min. a day).

After six months of practicing I made two changes that made playing the whistle much more enjoyable.
I bought a whistle that I really enjoy playing and I found a private tutor with whom I met once every two weeks.

Good luck,
Folkert

Good advice…and that Joanie Madden quote is quite inspirational, isn’t it?

I hate the word “routine” applied to “Playing” an instrument. Play is the key word. It needs to be fun. Joanie Madden pretty much nailed it.
In addition to playing typical whistle tunes, play some tunes that you already know by heart. Christmas carols, TV theme songs and folk tunes are some examples. You’ll be amazed at how, once your brain knows the tune, your breathing and fingering can easily make the music. This suggests how you can learn new stuff. Listen to a tune until you can hum it or whistle it with your lips, not a whistle. Once you can do that, the whistle playing will be a lot easier.

The whole interview would make a great introduction to whistling for us newbies. There were so many quotable things in it that it’s now saved to the computer so it can be read many times.

First – practice is only beneficial if you are doing things correctly. If there’s a difficult part in a tune, and you mess up each time you get to it, then you are reinforcing the wrong thing.

So – never practice faster than you can play accurately.

In order to maximize the benefit of your practice time, you need to work on whatever needs the most work. This is where a teacher can really help. It could be tone, rhythm, memory, or clean fingering to name a few. Only someone who can hear your playing (i.e., you) can make that call. Making a recording of yourself might help, but really only if you know what to listen for.

So – basic practice strategy – figure out a weakness and work on it until it’s a strength.

When I say “a weakness” this might be a single note transition in a tune. Maybe you have a tune that goes from the 2nd octave E to the first octave C, and maybe that’s really hard for you to play correctly. So slow it down however much you need to, and then do just that one little piece five or 10 times. Then put it back into the context of your tune. Playing whole tunes all the way through is fun, but it’s not practice.

Also, don’t spend your whole time working on one little detail. It’s a diminishing returns kind of thing. Do it a few times and then move onto something else that needs work. The real improvement always comes after you sleep. Therefor it is important to come back to the same thing the next time to see your improvement.

Scales, arpeggios, and exercises can have their place, but only in the context of tunes you’re working on.

If you don’t play some other instrument, then rhythm is probably going to be either a challenge, or a serious challenge. A metronome can really help here. The more difficult it seems to play along with a metronome, the more you need it. If you have a smartphone you can get a free app. I have a Steinway metronome app on my iPhone that’s good, and free.

Finally, give practice your total attention. If you’re distracted you might not notice you’re doing something incorrect – wasted time.

When I started to play whistles I came across a small book by the Armagh Pipers Club called Learn to Play the Tin Whistle. Looking online for it I came across www.scribd.com/doc/21471212/50-Simp… Where a PDF scan is available which looks like a close relative of the book I had. The tunes are perfect for starters and have simple numbers below for fingering 1 is B 2 is A etc.

Hope this helps. I’m going to trawl back through it now and revisit the tunes.

Nice find, thanks for the link.