Low D finger spacing please

I have a Dixon low D and am contemplating ordering an Overton low D. is there much variation in finger spacing on low D’s? I think the Shaw may be the closest. In particular could some kind soul get out the tape measure so I can compare. Maybe we could go further and get a database going.
So for my Dixon measuring from top of top hole (nearest to windway end) to top of next hole etc in order down the tube I have to nearest millimetre:

37 72 131 162 202

and while I’m at it why not hole sizes too:

8 9 7 9 11 7

Brian

Song of the Sea provides some of the basic fingering:

http://www.songsea.com/lowwhisfingchart.html

The only note I can add is that the fingering of the Kerry Pro is just slightly longer than the OS/NR Chieftains for the lower 3.

I don’t have an Overton, but here are the measurings of my Old Line Chieftain, which is probably quite close to an Overton:

38 75 126 162 202

and the sizes:

9 11 9 8 13 9

Song of the Sea provides some of the basic fingering:

http://www.songsea.com/lowwhisfingchart.html >

That’s handy but no totally sure where the measurements here are from. Centres of holes probably but then … :confused:

Brian

If you like the Overton sound, order one from Colin Goldie, and you can get it with smaller spacing or regular spacing. And, you can ask for tone and breath requirements as you like them! If you’re not sure, call, or email him and they will be happy to help you.

So, if you want an Overton, get an Overton. There’s nothing quite like them! Colin and Brigitte are great people too!

I don’t know if Bernard makes them to order, or not. He’s a good guy, too though!

Howard low D

Again Howard Low D center to center MM


C# 35 B 37 A 53 G 28 F# 47 E

Song of the Sea provides some of the basic fingering:

http://www.songsea.com/lowwhisfingchart.html >

I have confirmation that these measurements are centre to centre - I guess that is the obvious way to measure.

Brian

It is usually, do you want my measurments centre to centre or should I not bother?

This issue has come up a number of times. You might want to do a search of the database to get all the measurements. Loren did some excellent research on the finger spread subject. The Goldie Overton was consistently the easiest (closest). I have in the past owned a number of Low-D’s and tried a numbers of additional whistles. I can confirm that my Overton is the easiest which is part of why its the only Low-D I still own or play. The classic Overton tone and back pressure are also my favored characteristics in a low whistle.

Hope this helps you …

I worried about spacing and hole size obsessively when I got my first low D (a Dixon). And my attempts to play other’s Low D whistles (Chieftain, Overton, and Copeland) bore this out - they were really, really hard to handle. I was able to use my fingertips on the Dixon, and I had real problems with piper’s grip, so I pretty much ruled out getting another low D.

Then I borrowed a Howard Low D - large holes, fairly long spacing. Piper’s grip was a necessity. I had a very, very, nasty week or two, then adapted (and ended up buying the whistle). To my surprise, I discovered that piper’s grip was much easier on my hands, even on the Dixon. These days, I find my Howard very easy and relaxing to play (and have really enjoyed trying the others again - I hated to give Tony Higgins’ Copeland Low D back after trying it).

I have moderately broad palms, but fairly short and skinny fingers (for a man, at least). Unless you’ve got truly tiny hands, I’d think that almost any make of whistle will work for you if you don’t insist on playing with your fingertips.

I have taken the plunge and ordered my low D. But there will be a choice of two: close holed and not so close holed. Any comments on the choice?

I have a soprano D and a low? A, both Overtons which I like very much so am on the way for a set :boggle:

Brian

Just back from visiting Bernard Overton. He made me a pair of low D’s to choose one from. I chose the close fingering one - slightly less volume but otherwise very much the same as far as I could tell. On the standard model I could only reach the bottom hole with the tip of my little finger. Playable, but a strain.

The finger spacing on the one I bought is very similar to the Dixon.

Brian

The only low D that I have tried that has a better (read closer) finger spread than the Overton is my Bleazey. The finger holes on the Bleazey are also quiet easy to manage (smaller) due to a conical bore and thick walls.