Are there any good chromatic whistles?

I sometimes have the strange urge to play more chromaticaly on the whistle, which explains my question, are there any good chromatic whistles? I wouldn’t likely use it for IrTrd, but just for goofing around, playing stuff by ear.

Maybe I should just check into recorders, (and then maybe a mental institution?) :party: but I seem to have a strange prejuduice against them because they look funny and remind me of grade school.

i think there’s two options on chromatic whistles http://jubileeinstruments.messianic-webhosting.com/jubilee.htm
http://www.overton.de/texte/pricelist.html

((personally, i’d rather go for a set of uilleann pipes, they’re difficult, you have to practice very day, but i love the sound)

You could always go for a professional tenor or bass recorder - still looks funny but at these prices they shouldn’t remind you of grade school… :slight_smile:

John

Colin Goldie makes a 10 hole more/less chromatic whistle (Overton).

You can find some previous discussion here:

http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php?t=7545&highlight=overton+chromatic

Monster, despite the abuse we (in fun?) sometimes heap on them here, recorders ARE chromatic whistles. And they can sound a LOT better than you remember from grade school.

But you get the full chromatic range at a cost - the fingerings are (a little) more complex than a whistle, so the fast ornamentation of IrTrad doesn’t work particularly well. Not “bad”, just “different”, IMHO.

Though I haven’t played them as much since getting obsessed with whistle, I’ve played recorder since grade school. And even the cheap plastic versions from Yamaha are surprisingly good, if approached with as much care as you’d give a whistle - really, at the low end, cheap recorders are much more consistant than cheap whistles.

Or for around $50 you can get a very good mid-range plastic C soprano or F alto (Yamaha and Aulos have several in this range). I wouldn’t recommend starting with an F sopranino (too high, and you need teeny-tiny fingers) or a C tenor (like a low D - good, but get the basics down first).

The only problem I see is that you may occasionally get your fingerings mixed up when switching back and forth (some fingerings are identical, some very different), but practice will smooth that out.

Thanks everyone for the info. I scratched the itch and bought a Weltmeister wooden umm, it’s a well ok, well it’s this wooden thing, with a lot of holes and you blow into like a whistle, but it’s not a whistle. It has a strangely disconnected tone, has funny fingerings, a hole in the back, and (I’m pretty sure) it plays chromatically.

:blush: I bought a recorder. :blush:


I think I may need therapy. :wink: :boggle:

Don’t worry about it. Monster.

I own 5 in various keys and I’m perfectly . . .

Well, they haven’t CAUGHT ME YET! TOP OF THE WORLD, MA!!! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Chromatic whistles?
Already in low whistles, from D. Bigammon.
Soon back in high whistles, from Sweetheart.

PS: if the recorder is chromatic, then the whistle is too: just a question of replacing some recorder cross-fingerings with half-holing… It’s only a question of small holes gainst big holes.
Ok, I agree, the “pig-nose” half-fingered first register low down tones are more accurate on the re***er. Now playing music on these weakest, “atone”, tones is another question. Let’s be serious: in the lower fourth of lower register, a flute has to be keyed, or better stay diatonic, than pretend to be chromatic and loose every other quality to save the mere pitch of two accidentals…
Just try and play Db or Eb scale on a tenor recorder, see if it’s that much chromatic. Yes it will handle a few accidentals easier than a low whistle, but this latter is in its own way more flexible, because it’s so easy to switch to a transposing whistle (Db, Eb…) when the recorder is stuck to its C (+D) or F (+G) fundamentals, and takes a helluva virtuosity to circumvene these limitations.

Wow, that’s a long post-scriptum

I have a beautiful recorder made by Gill. It’s made of maple I think, and instead of a third piece with the bottom holes and bell, it’s solid with a slight flair. The tone is unbelievable. Unfortunately, I don’t think they make that particular one anymore.

I think you’ll have fun trying it out, though. Just think how much more you know now–it probably won’t sound anything like it did in school. :slight_smile:

Try a Susato rec***er.

Yes, very nice. They were actually made by Zamir. A web search will find music shops which carry them, or Zamir’s site: http://www.zamir-recorders.co.il/

I have a Gill plastic rec***er that actually sounds somewhat whistle-y.

I think these are also made by Zamir.

Hey Walden, I checked out the link and yes, my recorder looks like the Zamir soprano. Not exactly, but very very close. Now I know where to look if mine gets damaged somehow. (I’ve had it since about 1985!)