Rudall Carte Piccolo Simple system

treeshark · Post by **treeshark** » Sat May 24, 2008 10:46 am

Got a Rudall Carte Piccolo off a market stall today. Simple System Eb. 6 keys. Very beautifully made. cocus, slide. cork with silver plate turned adjustor etc.
In about mint condition doesn't look to have been played, springs all fine a couple of the pads have rotted.
The stamp reads Rudall & Carte Co Ltd, 23 Berners Street, Oxford Street, London, 6780. Crown above.
Any more info would be welcome!

Denny · Post by **Denny** » Sat May 24, 2008 10:58 am

Cool!

so, ya gonna workup a Goatee line for picc?

treeshark · Post by **treeshark** » Sat May 24, 2008 11:07 am

Denny wrote:Cool!

so, ya gonna workup a Goatee line for picc?

Heh I don't think I'll keep it my face and hands are too big, and only bats can hear the top end, It's very easy to blow though, I've tried other piccolos and struggled, but this one is easy.

Jon C. · Post by **Jon C.** » Sat May 24, 2008 2:04 pm

treeshark wrote:Got a Rudall Carte Piccolo off a market stall today. Simple System Eb. 6 keys. Very beautifully made. cocus, slide. cork with silver plate turned adjustor etc.
In about mint condition doesn't look to have been played, springs all fine a couple of the pads have rotted.
The stamp reads Rudall & Carte Co Ltd, 23 Berners Street, Oxford Street, London, 6780. Crown above.
Any more info would be welcome!

Can we see a photo of your new beauty? After all, you are a photographer...

treeshark · Post by **treeshark** » Sat May 24, 2008 4:29 pm

Jon C. wrote: Can we see a photo of your new beauty? After all, you are a photographer...

Illustrator please! Would a quick sketch do? I'll post one on Tues as my server has died the death and won't be going again til after the weekend...

It's similar to the one on this page except it has a squared off end cap with adjusting mechanism.

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/piccplr/vpicc/vpicc6.html

Jon C. · Post by **Jon C.** » Sat May 24, 2008 6:49 pm

Here is a R&R F that the late Andrew Kirby had, to hold us over...

Terry McGee · Post by **Terry McGee** » Sat May 24, 2008 9:57 pm

Comme cela?

Terry

Jon C. · Post by **Jon C.** » Sat May 24, 2008 10:50 pm

Terry McGee wrote:Comme cela?

Terry

...et comme cela aurait pu être craint...

treeshark · Post by **treeshark** » Sun May 25, 2008 5:49 am

Terry McGee wrote:Comme cela?

Terry

That's the one but with no bits missing!

jemtheflute · Post by **jemtheflute** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:55 am

Voice les miens. (Pour-quoi est-ce qu'on ecrive en Francais?)

The upper one is my own playing piccolo, RC & Co #6974 in ebonite, bought off eBay from one of the regular dealers nearly a couple of years back for c £140, - plays very sweetly (in D @ A=440) but is very condensation prone.

The lower one is my equivalent of Treeshark's find - bought off eBay about a year ago for £20-ish - the seller did not make any mention of the perfectly clear stamps in the advert, nor were they visible on the photos, so it was a very pleasant surprise when it arrived, though I knew from the look of it that it was a bit out-of-the-ordinary. I haven't gotten around to doing any work on it yet, but it is semi-playable for test purposes as is and is also very nice sounding. It has an unopened barrel crack that only needs fixing for safety, the barrel lining is loose, there is an old replacement short F block, and, the worst problem, is missing its Eb key (German Silver, miniature saltspoon) - which is going to be a major problem to replace, dammit (ideas anyone?????). It is otherwise in excellent condition, just needing a general clean and overhaul. It is in cocuswood, in D @ A=440 and is RC & Co #1783.

Sorry they're not very good pics (!

!) - I'm rushing a bit and no time to do better ones.

Treeshark, are you sure yours is an Eb?

jemtheflute · Post by **jemtheflute** » Sun May 25, 2008 10:06 am

Oh yeah, and slightly tweaking the thread, any of you seen this on eBay?

Lovely Irish Flute by Brendan McMahon

Someone got themselves a real bargain - it went for a mere £75! Surely that would make Mr. McMahon weep if he sees it!

Seems to be recently made 5-key piccolo - and weren't we musing recently in another thread over whether any modern maker would bother with such when there are so many decent old ones floating around unwanted still? Making normal flute-size keys is finicky enough!

david quinn · Post by **david quinn** » Sun May 25, 2008 12:53 pm

Id be interested in buying a Rudall Carte simple system piccolo same length as this, if anyone has a spair one for sale

ebonite prefered

Terry McGee · Post by **Terry McGee** » Mon May 26, 2008 5:12 pm

jemtheflute wrote:
the worst problem, is missing its Eb key (German Silver, miniature saltspoon) - which is going to be a major problem to replace, dammit (ideas anyone?????).

Your opportunity to take repairs to the next level - fashioning your own key. All you need is an EPNS spoon from your local flea market, and some basic silversmithing tools and a rainy Sunday afternoon ...

Terry

I.D.10-t · Post by **I.D.10-t** » Mon May 26, 2008 5:31 pm

david quinn wrote:Id be interested in buying a Rudall Carte simple system piccolo same length as this, if anyone has a spair one for sale ebonite prefered

Is that an Eb?? It seems a bit short for a D, but I am no expert!

david quinn · Post by **david quinn** » Tue May 27, 2008 10:34 am

I.D.10-t wrote:
david quinn wrote:Id be interested in buying a Rudall Carte simple system piccolo same length as this, if anyone has a spair one for sale ebonite prefered

Is that an Eb?? It seems a bit short for a D, but I am no expert!

Yes E flat high pitch.

David

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