Alert! Rudall and Rose 730 FS on Ebay

Paul McGlinchey · Post by **Paul McGlinchey** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:15 pm

R&R 730 for sale on Ebay.

Bids over $6000!

Denny · Post by **Denny** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:35 pm

starts at $6,000

Rudall & Rose

B foot

treeshark · Post by **treeshark** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:01 pm

If you all club together it will do nicely for my christmas present...
Are those little rollers on the bottom 3 keys?

Aanvil · Post by **Aanvil** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:04 pm

treeshark wrote:If you all club together it will do nicely for my christmas present...
Are those little rollers on the bottom 3 keys?

I'd say yes.

To the rollers.

Not your prezzy.

jemtheflute · Post by **jemtheflute** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:19 pm

Extra Bb touch, B foot (with rollers!), vgc and what a lovely embouchure! And all for a mere £3k!!!!

Another new SN for DM too(?)! And a straight Cnat touch. So many recent points raised re: other flutes all in one! Now, if it just had a spare PH........ oh, and its grease pot and cleaning rod with integral screw-driver, what might it be worth then? It's probably too early to have needed a certificate from Messrs R&R, though.

s1m0n · Post by **s1m0n** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:53 pm

It's loverly.

Jon C. · Post by **Jon C.** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:41 pm

Well at least you don't have to worry about the flute being head heavy, with that foot! Whoever buys it, can send it to me to get it cleaned up...

It's nice, because no one has "fixed" it yet! It seems that a lot of the work is spent trying to fix the repairs, done in the past.

daiv · Post by **daiv** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:32 am

Jon C. wrote:Well at least you don't have to worry about the flute being head heavy, with that foot! Whoever buys it, can send it to me to get it cleaned up...
It's nice, because no one has "fixed" it yet! It seems that a lot of the work is spent trying to fix the repairs, done in the past.

i dont know jon, that sounds highly suspect... where'd you ever get an idea like that?

RudallRose · Post by **RudallRose** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:30 pm

Jem: certificates showed up just before the four-petal mark did, around the 3000series. (no access to the catalogue here at work so I can't say with any precision)
My suspicion is that the petals (new stamp) and the certificates came at the same time, but the stock of old marked flutes remained to be sold first, ergo the certificates appearing first in the cases.
These certificates did not include the serial number of the flute inside (funny, how else to prevent the "fraud" they worried so much about?) or any other identifier. The numbers on certificates appeared with the second batch, which had a cartouche on the right side.

No big deal on the straight C shank (touch). this was the style for quite some time until the uplifted touch showed up (again, the catalogue has the details to show when that was....just don't have it handy right now).

I think i have this one on my catalogue, but will check.
The address is funny on first blush, but just my own react.
I'll be checking

dm

RudallRose · Post by **RudallRose** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:38 pm

I've checked and everything on this flute checks out.
The serial number is good and so is the box. The address is one of the earlier of the Piazza mark (which incidentally was just on the other side of the building for R&R from all their other addresses at Tavistock).

A bit steep for my tastes, but I don't doubt there's some dealer-wannabe out there who will pay way too much for it, stuff it away and then attempt to sell it as an expert some time from now.

You'll know it when you see it.

RudallRose · Post by **RudallRose** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:43 pm

A nearly duplicate flute sold in September, #704. A nice Rudall with the same rollers on the foot keys. Even had the same pin at the A hole. But condition wasn't near as good.

The flute had flat key cups and a high-E trill. Slightly different, yes, but very very similar.

Very nice!

gorjuswrex · Post by **gorjuswrex** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:46 am

Looks like there could be a silver pin inserted just at the side of left Hand 3 hole?
Not obvious to me what its for, might have been a bit of damage at the birth? Key Block has been refitted. A crack, what's the thinking?

This ebayer often sells flutes and used to have a different ebay ID.

Kevin

Aanvil · Post by **Aanvil** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:49 am

gorjuswrex wrote:Looks like there could be a silver pin inserted just at the side of Right Hand 3 hole?
Not obvious to me what its for, might have been a bit of damage at the birth? Key Block has been refitted. A crack, what's the thinking?

This ebayer often sells flutes and used to have a different ebay ID.

Kevin

I think this is known construction method on some R&R. You can see it on the other key blocks.

Perhaps as a device to strengthen the key block? Or to keep to block from changing shape and seizing up the key?

Chris Norman's boxwood has them pretty clearly seen.

johnkerr · Post by **johnkerr** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:05 pm

My Rudall and Rose (#4009) also has the little round metal pins in the keyblocks, as is seen in the blocks for the G# and long F keys on this flute. But I wonder about the one on the C key, which is right up against the third finger hole of the top section. At first glance I thought it was an imperfection in the photo, but it can't be that as it shows up in the same spot in two different photos. That doesn't look all that stable, but I guess if it's survived all these years it must be.

Jon C. · Post by **Jon C.** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:44 pm

Aanvil wrote:
gorjuswrex wrote:Looks like there could be a silver pin inserted just at the side of Right Hand 3 hole?
Not obvious to me what its for, might have been a bit of damage at the birth? Key Block has been refitted. A crack, what's the thinking?

This ebayer often sells flutes and used to have a different ebay ID.

Kevin

I think this is known construction method on some R&R. You can see it on the other key blocks.

Perhaps as a device to strengthen the key block? Or to keep to block from changing shape and seizing up the key?

Chris Norman's boxwood has them pretty clearly seen.

That was another R&R feature, I believe the pins are to try to prevent cracking between the block, as sometimes this happens. They are steel pins, not silver, as far as I know...