iTunes tunes

dlambert · Post by **dlambert** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:21 pm

I've downloaded some pretty good stuff from there lately. It seems that there is more trad appearing on the site. It's also sometimes helpful searching for a setting of a tune you might be learning.

Some of the latest good stuff I've come across is:
Eamonn Coyne - "Through the Round Window"
Walpole's Pipes
Whistling Reels
Ash Plant
Flynn Cohen - Dead String Rhythm
The Steampacket / The Morning Star
Bonnie Kate / Jenny's Chickens
Live From Katharine Cornell Theather
Artists such as Paddy Keenan, Tommy Peoples, Teada, Niall and Cillian Valleley

How about other Itunes gems you've found?

Cathy Wilde · Post by **Cathy Wilde** » Mon May 21, 2007 2:57 pm

Arcady, Planxty, Moving Cloud, Joe Derrane, Kevin Burke/Micheal Ni Domnhaill, all blue gazillion of le Ceoltóiri Cultúrlainne's "Foinn Seisiún 2: Traditional Irish Session Tunes" .... the list goes on and on!

dlambert · Post by **dlambert** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:37 pm

The bummer about the iTunes downloads are that they are in m4p format. Converting is pretty easy on a PC with QTFairuse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QTFairUse

Then you can freely convert from m4a to mp3 or any other format.

cavefish · Post by **cavefish** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:58 am

dlambert wrote:The bummer about the iTunes downloads are that they are in m4p format. Converting is pretty easy on a PC with QTFairuse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QTFairUse

Then you can freely convert from m4a to mp3 or any other format.

please explain it to me in 'sesame street" terms -the music from the Apple site we have to convert so we can play them on other players -or other player mp3,s we have to convert to play on Apple

Bridges-PdP · Post by **Bridges-PdP** » Tue May 22, 2007 11:14 am

My approach was...to buy an iPod. Thus far, the DRM has not in any way hindered my activities. I certainly don't want to start any kind of fiery discussion about what belongs to you, me or them or for that matter fair use.

Apple sells a lot of iPods and they cost more than other mp3 players. They're nice. I'm sure there are folks who'll say they don't want their music purchases tied to any one manufacture's hardware, but don't we do this all the time with other purchases in life? or maybe not. In the past I wouldn't have bought a 'foreign' car because parts and service cost more. That's not the case anymore. I just saying that I (as in me) haven't run across a situation yet where I was frustrated by Apple's DRM.

I like my iPod.

Scott

fearfaoin · Post by **fearfaoin** » Tue May 22, 2007 11:17 am

cavefish wrote:please explain it to me in 'sesame street" terms -the music from the Apple site we have to convert so we can play them on other players -or other player mp3,s we have to convert to play on Apple

The mp4s from iTunes are copy protected. It is probably somewhat
illegal, according to the Digital Melleneum Copyright Act, to talk
about circumventing copyright protection. However, this transcript
of a Sesame Street episode is, I believe, protected by free speech:

Bert was at his computer when Ernie walked in.
"What ya doin' Bert, ol' buddy?" asked Ernie.

Bert sighed. "I want to put my music on my mp3 player, but
iTunes won't let me because it's not an iPod!"

"Well, that's easy Bert. Even my rubber duckie could do that!"

Bert looked hurt, "Why are you making fun of me Ernie? That's
not nice! It's bad enough that I don't have seperable fingers. I
can't even type right. At least help me use my music the way I
want to!"

Ernie took out a re-recordable CD and put it in Bert's CD drive.
(Can you say "re-recordable", children? Very good!)
"Now, Bert, make a playlist of the songs you want, and burn that
playlist to the CD in iTunes."

"OK, Ernie, if you say so." Bert did as he was told. Then, Ernie
brought up a ripping program called Exact Audio Copy and
ripped the CD they just burned to MP3s on Bert's hard disc.

"That's great, Ernie. Now I can put these MP3s on my player."

"Wait a minute, Bert that's not an MP3 player, that's just a banana
in your ear"

"What, I can't hear you, I have a banana in my ear," said Bert....

upooper · Post by **upooper** » Tue May 22, 2007 3:08 pm

try usenet

alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.celtic it's mindblowing....

cavefish · Post by **cavefish** » Tue May 22, 2007 3:20 pm

fearfaoin wrote:
cavefish wrote:please explain it to me in 'sesame street" terms -the music from the Apple site we have to convert so we can play them on other players -or other player mp3,s we have to convert to play on Apple
The mp4s from iTunes are copy protected. It is probably somewhat
illegal, according to the Digital Melleneum Copyright Act, to talk
about circumventing copyright protection. However, this transcript
of a Sesame Street episode is, I believe, protected by free speech:

Bert was at his computer when Ernie walked in.
"What ya doin' Bert, ol' buddy?" asked Ernie.

Bert sighed. "I want to put my music on my mp3 player, but
iTunes won't let me because it's not an iPod!"

"Well, that's easy Bert. Even my rubber duckie could do that!"

Bert looked hurt, "Why are you making fun of me Ernie? That's
not nice! It's bad enough that I don't have seperable fingers. I
can't even type right. At least help me use my music the way I
want to!"

Ernie took out a re-recordable CD and put it in Bert's CD drive.
(Can you say "re-recordable", children? Very good!)
"Now, Bert, make a playlist of the songs you want, and burn that
playlist to the CD in iTunes."

"OK, Ernie, if you say so." Bert did as he was told. Then, Ernie
brought up a ripping program called Exact Audio Copy and
ripped the CD they just burned to MP3s on Bert's hard disc.

"That's great, Ernie. Now I can put these MP3s on my player."

"Wait a minute, Bert that's not an MP3 player, that's just a banana
in your ear"

"What, I can't hear you, I have a banana in my ear," said Bert....

MY Pal

Buckeye67 · Post by **Buckeye67** » Tue May 22, 2007 4:03 pm

Hope noone minds me plugging www.emusic.com in an itunes discussion. :p

eMusic is pretty good and has a good selection of traddy type stuff. Plus, their files are in non-proprietary mp3 format. Here's some of what I've downloaded there:

Altan
Boys of the Lough
Brian Hughes
Cathal McConnell
Cormac Breatnach
Danu
Flook
Grey Larsen
Kevin Crawford
Kornog
Larry Nugent
Lunasa
Matt Molloy
Mike McGoldrick
Milladoiro
Muireann Nic Amhlaobh
Paddy Carty
Seamus Egan
Solas
The House Band
The Tannahill Weavers

I still have a bunch more on my "to do" list.

dlambert · Post by **dlambert** » Wed May 23, 2007 8:05 am

I'll have to check emusic out. Thanks.

As for m4p tracks. The QTFairUse program is not illegal. It will only function if you are decoding tracks you have legally purchased from iTunes. The JHymn people are very against piracy. The program uses iTunes to un-encrypt the track. The main benefit to QT is that is automatically scans and converts your entire library in a pretty decent time frame. I also have a Mac and I have a program called DRM Dumpster that writes back and forth to a re-writable CD. It is very slow. If you have a PC the QT program is light years better.

dlambert · Post by **dlambert** » Wed May 23, 2007 8:22 am

emusic seems to require a subscription. I hate those. I'd rather pay more than have a monthly bill.

I'm not familiar with usenet, but the little browsing I just did seems to indicate that we're talking pirated music. I wouldn't want to do that. Trad musicians make too little for the talent they have already. We need to do all we can to support our community.

dpmccabe · Post by **dpmccabe** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:53 pm

upooper wrote:try usenet

alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.celtic it's mindblowing....

I'll have to check that out as soon as my Amiga 500 boots up. I just got a sweet new 14.4kbps modem to surf the internet superhighway at mindblowing speeds.

fearfaoin · Post by **fearfaoin** » Thu May 24, 2007 3:57 pm

dlambert wrote:The QTFairUse program is not illegal. It will only function if you are decoding tracks you have legally purchased from iTunes.

Doesn't matter. The Digital Mellinium Copyright Act says that it is
illegal to break copyright protection whether you own the material
or not. For a long time it meant that you couldn't legally play
DVDs (that you owned) in Linux. It's a terrible law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA