Types of chanters

PJ · Post by PJ » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:18 am

It's probably a basic question but what are the correct names for the 2 main types of chanter?

The first is what I call the 19th century type where the chanter connects with the bag via the top of the chanter, like this Gallagher chanter: http://www.uilleann.com/fullset.html.

The second is where it connects with the bag from the side. Like this Childress chanter: http://www.bcpipes.com/set43.html

Thies · Post by **Thies** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:22 am

Chanter 1:

Chanter 2:

No E · Post by **No E** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:02 pm

Hmmm, if there is "official nomenclature" for wind cap types, I'm unaware of it--being a former gearhead, I call them "top draft" and "side draft."

No E

djm · Post by **djm** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:13 pm

These are both modern inventions. Older style was to go directly into the top of the chanter without reducing the airway.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/dj.moulton/bg_bset1.jpg
http://www.uilleannobsession.com/photos ... oneely.jpg
http://www.uilleannobsession.com/photos/uilleann3.jpg
http://www.uilleannobsession.com/photos ... dpiper.jpg

djm

PJ · Post by PJ » Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:24 pm

Wow. Looks great, but how practical is it? I guess you would have to remove the chanter top (and expose the reed) each time you wanted to pack the set away. Otherwise you risk creasing the neck of the bag.

AlanB · Post by **AlanB** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:58 pm

wharfedalecarving · Post by **wharfedalecarving** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:15 pm

The chanter in the neck of the bag looks very similar to type used by Northumbrian pipers. Basically, the neck has a piece of plastic (female) tied in permanently to the neck of the bag. The chanter has what is refered to as an "interchangeable chanter stock" (male) and this can be plugged in or unplugged at will into the bag without disturbing or exposing the reed.
Hope this helps to clarify.
Joseph (the UK one).

djm · Post by **djm** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:25 pm

PJ wrote:Wow. Looks great, but how practical is it?

The chanter top plugs into a large-mouthed plug in the neck of the bag, as opposed to having a metal pipette plug into a small-mouthed plug in at the neck of the bag. Otherwise, same thing. As U.K.Joe noted, there is still a windcap that covers the reed at all times. One modernization that was done with this design was to include a tube of auto-wiring insulation to keep the neck from collapsing too much.

djm

PJ · Post by PJ » Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:29 pm

I didn't realise that the above was a set made by Joe Kennedy - nice one!!

PJ · Post by PJ » Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:13 pm

No E wrote:being a former gearhead, I call them "top draft" and "side draft."

I like it.

WannabePiper · Post by **WannabePiper** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:19 pm

AlanB wrote:...which may be the same for crooks for bassons etc., ??

Alan

I think those are called bocals, if I remember from my high school wind ensemble days.