whistles in Ireland during my 3 weeks

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:12 pm

I just got back from 3 weeks in Ireland. I know, or knew, that the Irish favor Generations, Waltons, etc. So my very informal whistle survey surprised me.

In Dingle, no one in any of the pubs was playing whistles. The only whistle I saw was being played by a busker. I was on the way out to the pubs when I walked by him and I was blown away by how well he was playing. After making a tour of the pubs and finding no one whistling, I went back and the busker was still there so I stood and listened a while. His playing was as good as any I've ever heard. He was playing a black whistle and the lighting wasn't good so I couldn't tell what brand it was. When he took a break we talked a while and I was surprised to find he was playing a Susato D. He said he's been playing since he was eleven years old (he's now in his late 40's) and that the Susato is the best brand of whistle he's ever run across.

I went out to listen to music in Clonakilty and really enjoyed it but the only wind instrument being played was a flute (that guy was excellent, though...great evening all around).

In Kilkenny I went to Kytler's, where they have traditional music 6 nights a week. The band had a whistler who once again was setting the world on fire (imho). In talking to him afterward, I was once again surprised to find he was playing a Susato D.

In Dublin in the various pubs I saw two different whistlers playing...both were playing Susatos.

I saw a busker playing a Generation blue top D, but he wasn't playing Irish music. It was some kind of South American genre. He played well, though.

The only other whistles I saw were in Doolin. In McDermott's the whistle player in the band was (surprise) playing a Susato. At O'Connor's, the high whistle was an Abell blackwood D and the same guy was also playing Overton low D and F.

So, when I came across a music store, I bought...the new Dixon aluminum body D. I played Susatos in the store and they sounded just as harsh to me as always. The store where I bought it had stocked up before the fleadh (I have no idea when that was, but sounded like it was recent history there), buying 100 of the Dixons, and he only had a few left when I bought mine.

At the trad music store in Doolin, the owner said his customers were split down the middle between Dixon and Susato.

No regrets, I still love my Dixons, but I was really surprised by the percentage of Susatos being played in Ireland. Final tally: 5 Susatos, 1 Gen blue top, 1 Abell.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:34 pm

I've had more than a couple people tell me Susatos are popular in Ireland. I don't see why. *cringe*

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:02 pm

Last year In Armagh we saw Seán Keane perform. He did some great whistle playing during the concert. After, I asked him what kind and he told me they were Susatos.

amar · Post by **amar** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:07 pm

guess they use em cuz they're loud.

colomon · Post by **colomon** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:28 pm

Paul wrote:Last year In Armagh we saw Seán Keane perform. He did some great whistle playing during the concert. After, I asked him what kind and he told me they were Susatos.

Sean Keane the singer? One of the men responsible for the name of the tune "The Convenience Reel"? Last time I saw him (2002?) he was playing a Generation Bb, I think. Interesting if he has switched over to Susatos.

BillChin · Post by **BillChin** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:03 pm

I have two Susatos. They are loud, in tune, and almost indestructible. For buskers these are all important attributes. The tone takes some getting used to. Indoors, in the upper register, earplugs are a good idea. Outdoors, unamplified, Susatos are near the top of the heap.
+ Bill

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:35 pm

amar wrote:guess they use em cuz they're loud.

Well, they also sound very good, when someone else is playing them (as opposed to me playing them. I bought one when I first started playing, and gave it away because it sounded so shrill. Then I went to see Lunasa for the first time and their Susatos sounded SO good that I bought another one...which I promptly gave away. Maybe I just wasn't pushing the volume enough to make it sound right. But my Dixons sound good even when played softly.

Bretton · Post by **Bretton** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:07 pm

Were all the Susatos wide-bore (...not the newer narrow bore ones) ??

-Brett

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:20 pm

Bretton wrote:Were all the Susatos wide-bore (...not the newer narrow bore ones) ??

-Brett

Yes, they were all the wide bore. Do the newer ones sound different?

vomitbunny · Post by **vomitbunny** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:13 pm

Dang it I just gave mine away recently......
Had I known I actually loved it when I thought that I hated it......
Looks like I'll have to order another. sigh

KDMARTINKY · Post by **KDMARTINKY** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:06 pm

Welcome back. Glad you had a great time. You know now that I have read you exploits I understand why when I chat with folks from Ireland and ask them to send me a Tin/penny whistle or Irish whistle, they look as if puzzled on what I am requesting.

Could the Irish whistle be a myth like the Leprechauns. :roll:

Redwolf · Post by **Redwolf** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:21 pm

blackhawk wrote:
amar wrote:guess they use em cuz they're loud.
Well, they also sound very good, when someone else is playing them (as opposed to me playing them. I bought one when I first started playing, and gave it away because it sounded so shrill. Then I went to see Lunasa for the first time and their Susatos sounded SO good that I bought another one...which I promptly gave away. Maybe I just wasn't pushing the volume enough to make it sound right. But my Dixons sound good even when played softly.

I have to say that I didn't like my Susatos at all until I learned, out of desperation, to push them. I needed a loud whistle to play for dancers out of doors, my Susato Dublin was the loudest one I had (at the time), so I put it into play. I later found that, even indoors, it's a pretty nice whistle...it just doesn't like to be babied. It WANTS to be loud...play to that want, and it's not at all harsh.

Redwolf

FJohnSharp · Post by **FJohnSharp** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:27 pm

One time a few months ago, Mike K from Sausato told us that they were popular in Europe, but no one believed him.

amar · Post by **amar** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:53 pm

blackhawk wrote:
Bretton wrote:Were all the Susatos wide-bore (...not the newer narrow bore ones) ??

-Brett
Yes, they were all the wide bore. Do the newer ones sound different?

yeah, the narrow bore do sound much sweeter, tis true.

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:59 pm

amar wrote:
blackhawk wrote:
Bretton wrote:Were all the Susatos wide-bore (...not the newer narrow bore ones) ??

-Brett
Yes, they were all the wide bore. Do the newer ones sound different?
yeah, the narrow bore do sound much sweeter, tis true.

Good! I just ordered one yesterday (here I go again).