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I'd second the Tommy Dion suggestion. I have one and it's very reasonably priced, and nice sounding, a little quiter than some, which I like since I play around the house. Great guy, too.
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JTC111 wrote:
sverretheflute wrote:I already have several non wood tin whistles.
What non-wood whistles do you have?
I have two "Generation" in C and D. And I have two Clarke Sweetone in C and D. The Clarke are easy to get to the upper octave, but does not have a very expressive sound. The Generation in D is in brass or something, and does not give me a satisfying sound. The Generation C is best, but very unforgiving…, I feel I have to play it with great confidence to get something soulful out of it…

I also plan to buy a low D pen whistle, probably a Shaw.

I also have some pakistan Dobani whistles, that is not in solid wood, but bamboo. I have them in low D, low F and low A. They are not bad tuned, but vary in quality. The low D is maybe my favorite whistle!


Zabava77 wrote:With this price range you can possibly look at sopilka - a Ukrainian folk flute. The fingering is different, but the sound it produces is pleasant.
Here is a link to some e-bay sopilkas: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid= ... a&_sacat=0
Thanks! They seem nice, but I don't want to change my technique to 5 holes in the middle of my learning. :)
Zabava77 wrote: I have this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/PROFESSIONAL-WO ... 27c6f9b04d, and enjoy playing it.
Seems really like a interesting whistle, maybe some time. :)

Zabava77 wrote: The other option (6 fingering holes) would be Serbian frula.
YOU HIT RIGHT ON THE SPOT HERE! I will return to this in a separate response post below.

ecohawk wrote: And there's the rub. Inexpensive wood recorders are generally not well tuned and do not have a fully playable range, often missing much of the higher end.
My very cheap pakistan bamboo "Dobani" whistles are quite well tuned. I have an digital tuner app, but I don't know how much difference that is acceptable. My low D whistle is often not more than 1% off the tune. Others are up around 2,5% off the tune.

The bamboo whistles are quite easy to get in higher octave, the low d goes 2,5 octaves! But the other whistles I have…, I would love to play them in two octaves, and understand that it's not a matter about technique only, but also price…
ecohawk wrote: At the low-price end of the wood whistle range, you'll find Tyrone Head and Simon Styles (Weston Whistles UK).

I would be remiss if I didn't mention that Tommy Dion, who posts here and for whom you can search for "whistles of wood", makes a very decent whistle that is low priced and well made.

Any others I'm aware of will be much more costly than these.
Thank you,ecohawk, I think that you give me a really good overview, there. I think I some time will consider one of these, but right now I'm into Balkan… (Se later response under.)
ecohawk wrote: In wood whistles, you get what you pay for IMHO.
I'm still a bit stubborn and unwilling to learn that. But I guess life will tell me. I also need to look around, and find the type of whistles I like first, and I can't do that at the high end. :)

JayDoc wrote:I'd second the Tommy Dion suggestion. I have one and it's very reasonably priced, and nice sounding, a little quiter than some, which I like since I play around the house. Great guy, too.
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Thanks JayDoc! I'll listen to that. I would love to hear some sound excamples, but maybe youtube have them already.



Thanks a lot, everyone!
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I FOUND IT! THIS FORUM IS REALLY HELPFUL!

Thank you so much, Zabava77 for giving me the tip about the Serbian frula!
Zabava77 wrote: The other option (6 fingering holes) would be Serbian frula.
Actually, this really is my "albanian" whistle! When I started to google Serbian frula, I soon found pictures of exactly the same souvenir whistle (with the same paintings) as I bought in albania. It was not an albanian whistle, but a Serbian frula!

I found a company that seems serious, with frulas in a wide price range.
http://souve-nirs.shopmania.biz/catalog/frule-287
All of the frulas are said to be in tune and of professional standard. They are used by traditional serbian musicians. I've just ordered a one-piece E-whistle.

The price is just above 25 USD. Bu it's actually not as much about the price: I want the sound and type of whistle I already found and fell in love with. I hope it will be with the similar feeling as with my souvenir "albanian" whistle, but cleaner tuned and better in upper octave.

This video shows a frula in action that looks like the one of the company above. I won't play the serbian way, but find my own north sea way…
http://youtu.be/hJw82UNVOTU


On my way to this final answer for my search, I was through Bulgaria… And I found another shepherds traditional instrument (which these whistles originally were), made of a maker that seems serious.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... OC:US:3160
It's in flat B, and seems to be quite close to the frula in style. I have some expectations.
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sverretheflute wrote:I FOUND IT! THIS FORUM IS REALLY HELPFUL!

Thank you so much, Zabava77 for giving me the tip about the Serbian frula!

Actually, this really is my "albanian" whistle! When I started to google Serbian frula, I soon found pictures of exactly the same souvenir whistle (with the same paintings) as I bought in albania. It was not an albanian whistle, but a Serbian frula!

I found a company that seems serious, with frulas in a wide price range.
http://souve-nirs.shopmania.biz/catalog/frule-287
All of the frulas are said to be in tune and of professional standard. They are used by traditional serbian musicians. I've just ordered a one-piece E-whistle.
I am glad you found your whistle! Please, let us know how you like it.

As far as Bulgarian flutes, Zdravko Beshendzhiev makes them http://kaba-gaida.com/duduk. I ordered another instrument from him, a Romanian kaval.
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Zabava77 wrote: I am glad you found your whistle! Please, let us know how you like it.

As far as Bulgarian flutes, Zdravko Beshendzhiev makes them http://kaba-gaida.com/duduk. I ordered another instrument from him, a Romanian kaval.
Thank you! I will tell. I considered one of the flutes of Zdravko Beshendzhiev, but it was just above the norewgian tax limit, that would raise my costs. Therefore I chose aother one, and hope it would be a good one.

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